Greetings from Gdansk/Danzig. Hahah!
If you look what Germany did and what Hitler said/wrote before Danzig it’s clear that war was inevitable.
Soviets and Germans had already agreed (in secrecy) that they will divide Eastern Europe, and Poland will be cut to half.
100% agree.
Really cool! Sounds like a great trip!
Propaganda was perhaps the wrong word. Shirer was a journalist and tried to report the facts. These were not always obvious and further affected by their complexity and the general fog of war. But if propaganda is the wrong word, so is storytelling. I do think he tried hard to be objective, though I don’t think it was possible to be entirely so.
Is there a good book on the Soviet experience, including the period after the war until Stalin’s death?
Sorry, where is the tank museum located? Tanks in advance!
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cause of World War II.
the cause of WWII was what happened at the end of WWI
So was his invitation for Poland to join him in fighting the Soviet Union and repeated attempts for diplomacy with Jozef Beck lies? I remember digging on this subject and I encountered some document online that I think was titled “Polish Aggression Against the German Minority in Poland”. I forgot who wrote it and where the author was from.
Like I said, I have come across much conflicting information.
I used to frequently go to Little Poland (Greenpoint, Brooklyn) when I lived in Queens, and my wife’s close friend, who she is with while I write this, regularly brings us food. Zywiec beer is my favorite beer (not kidding).
Yes. My understanding is the Germans wanted back historically German territory taken from them after WWI.
And Japan was completely ignored or disrespected during the Treaty of Versaille
Versailles was definitely the starting point. But I think it’s relatively clear Nazis were not going to stop there. It’s laid out quite clearly in Mein Kampf.
Hitler lied constantly in diplomacy. He lied to British, and French and Soviets.
Geez, I think if there’s any expansive/aggressive country in Europe which is acting in same way now?
Conflicting information is surely a norm in this kind of field of study. There’s probably no conflict what’s 100% black and white, but after reading several books, and some of the original texts, it was clear what Hitler was going to do.
Reasons for 1WW are much more complex, and Germany was not surely the only to blame. In 2ww, I think the culprit was pretty obvious.
Maybe the one country Hitler did not want to wage war against were US. Maybe without Japan fucking things up, Hitler could have had his Aryan imperium in Europe (if he could have beaten the Soviets, which is not sure he could have).
You would love it here. I’m just staying for couple nights, but it’s a beautiful and vibrant city.
Not really. They got what they were after, German colonial holdings in the pacific and a small piece of China (which is what the Japanese were really after). The causes of WW2 in the pacific are not as closely tied to the fallout from WW1 as it was with europe. Well, except for destabilizing colonial powers so Japan could scoop them up.
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In a nutshell, yes. Hitler viewed the Poles as “untermensch”, which translates as “under person” or “sub-human”. There was no intention to ally with Poland in a way that Poles would become full citizens of the Reich or anything other than a human resource to be exploited, as was the case with all occupied territories that weren’t composed of ethnic Germans.
National Socialism wasn’t so much about restoring Germany’s pre-war borders but rather uniting ethnic Germans wherever they might be found. Had Nazi war plans been realized, there were German-speaking “Aryans” in Russia who would have become full citizens of the Reich in Volga Deutschland. Occupied nations were to become Reichskommisariats, or puppet governments that served to control the population while wealth was extracted for the Reich.
What a great movie.
TIK History keeps the great book recommendations coming.
I highly recommend both books I linked above if anyone wants to learn about the ideology and economics of Nazi Germany. I was mostly interested in the military aspects of WWII and these were both eye opening to me.
I’m about 100 pages into Leonard Piekoff’s The Cause of Hitler’s Germany and really enjoying it so far. It is an examination of the philosophical origins of not just Nazi ideology, but how so many Germans were ready to go along with it.
He’s got a bit of a bone to pick with @T3hPwnisher ‘s boy Schopenhauer, along with Kant and Hegel.
It’s amazing how the people who hate the Germans the most tend to be the Germans. Nietzsche had some choice things to say about them as well.
I’m unsure of his ethnicity, but Peikoff is a Canadian, whatever that means.
He’s on his fourth marriage according to Wikipedia, so it seems like plenty of people hate him, too.
Maybe he should have chosen nihilism…
I’ve read several book about nazis and already forgot most of them. Hahah.
One book about the Reich what has stucj in to my mind is Burleigh’s Third Reich. A massive book with lot of research behind it. It’s 25 years old, but still holds in most cases.
I would have stopped with Shirer’s Rise and Fall of The Third Reich that I read 20 years ago or so, but my recent activities where I live have resulted in accusations of being a Nazi, so all of this reading of academic literature has immediate utility for me.
It has been amusing seeing so many Bates College professors showing up in my “suggested friends” list as I make the case that Maine is not a fascist land and our neighbors are not, in fact, National Socialists.
Anyone watching the new Ken Burns documentary on the American revolution?
