The Heartbeat of Civilization

[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
ephrem wrote:
IrishSteel wrote:
ephrem wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:
ephrem wrote:

…i consider myself to be a-moral, just like i consider myself an a-theist. My morality overlaps the communal morality in certain areas, and may even be stronger in places, but as my thread in ‘Get a Life’ on homegrowing weed illustrates, in general i approach morality as an individual…

Fantastic - love a honest individual!

OK, let me make sure I am with you so far. You say that you are amoral -do you mean that you lack any moral sensibility at all and never distinguish any difference between right and wrong? I don’t think you mean amoral in that sense. So perhaps you mean amoral in the sense of that you refuse to make judgments about morality except in certain cases?

Well, then you are not amoral- merely less judgmental than most individuals -but you do have a sense of morality that you define for yourself. - Is that more or less where you are?[/quote]

…well, perhaps it’s weak amorality. In many situations i find myself not caring about ‘it’ being wrong or right, only if an action benefits me. I do weigh the possible consequences imposed on me by society during the decision making process. So i’m not entirely indifferent, but on the whole the question if something is right or wrong is of little [disclaimer!] consequence to me…

[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
ephrem wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:
ephrem wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:

  1. If morality is simply what the majority think, on what basis would you have to judge its worthiness? It must be on the basis of something independent of “what the majority think,” which your theory of morality disallows.

…the worthiness of what exactly? The worthiness of morality? Does morality even have worth?

Nice job. You actually skirted each and every one of those. You do realize that any retard can play dumb right?

I’m going to assume for a moment that you are not dumb. And I’m going to ask you to answer just ONE of the above questions and stop fucking around.

…most of your replies to me in this thread are devoid of actual content, and you are summoning me to answer questions? Okay; i don’t think morality has an intrinsic value or worthiness that goes beyond how society benefits from those morals…

You’re the one who proclaimed that you believe morality is “fluid.” Okay, let me re-word it so you can’t provide yourself an “out” by pretending to get fluxommed over the word, “worthiness”:[/quote]

…you are insinuating that what i’ve said in the part quoted above is the opposite of ‘fluid’. Why do you think that, if you think that?

…if i want something, and i can’t get it because it’s illegal or because there’s a certain taboo that does not allow me to have it, then i can criticize that morality because i’m not allowed to fulfill my needs. Or i can say, ‘fuck it’, and just do it…