[quote]Headhunter wrote:
supermick wrote:
I love engaging in total ignorance with dickheads!
Obviously!!
HH
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We agree!!
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Kuz wrote:
doogie wrote:
A bunch of boring stuff.
yawn Yes, I am sure you are the greatest football mind of our time and I am quaking behind my keyboard at the moment. How will I ever continue with my day?
Your worst crime is your posts are neither interesting nor even remotely amusing. Feel free to keep throwing around your tough guy persona - it’s very convincing thus far. You and HH with his “soy lattes” lines. Hoo boy! You guys sure know how to win an argument! I mean, that’s some compelling stuff right there. Clarence Darrow would be proud.
Doogie is one of the most knowledgeable posters on this board. Also, you soc hoppers who make our posts look like what we’re not saying are confirming our opinions about soccer players: little rat-dogs chasing their little play ball around in the yard.
Enjoy your soy latte and Boca Burgers!!
HH
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Did you get kicked-off the pee-wee soccer team, or did a soccer mom knee you in the nuts or something?
You might not like the sport, which is fine as it’s entirely your right… but why insult the sport itself or its players?
Soccer players obviously have good endurance and coordination and some have incredible leg strength (and some are just strong period… I know guys who play who bench 300+ lbs and squat over 400lbs).
In the US people love golf and VJ Sighn isn’t exactly what I’d call the picture of athleticism… Tiger Woods either.
[quote]hotsauce wrote:
doogie wrote:
silencer wrote:
do any american soccer haters plan to watch their team play today just to give it a shot and support your country?
who knows, you might (gasp) be entertained.
I’m trying my hardest to watch it right now. It’s pretty painful.
Of course it is painful for you to watch! Your team sucks!!!
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How can you tell? They only got beat by 3 points after 90 minutes of running around. 3 points is pretty close, right?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Kuz wrote:
doogie wrote:
A bunch of boring stuff.
yawn Yes, I am sure you are the greatest football mind of our time and I am quaking behind my keyboard at the moment. How will I ever continue with my day?
Your worst crime is your posts are neither interesting nor even remotely amusing. Feel free to keep throwing around your tough guy persona - it’s very convincing thus far. You and HH with his “soy lattes” lines. Hoo boy! You guys sure know how to win an argument! I mean, that’s some compelling stuff right there. Clarence Darrow would be proud.
Doogie is one of the most knowledgeable posters on this board. Also, you soc hoppers who make our posts look like what we’re not saying are confirming our opinions about soccer players: little rat-dogs chasing their little play ball around in the yard.
Enjoy your soy latte and Boca Burgers!!
HH
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That was the weakest retort I have yet seen. Congratulations. Full of sound and fury signifying nothing. Do you actually have real arguments to make? I don’t need to make your posts look like something they’re not… there’s just nothing actual to them to begin with. Soy lattes? Boca burgers? That’s it? That’s all you’ve got? Wow…
In addition, doogie may be uber-knowledgable on a zillion different things, but that still doesn’t mean his posts haven’t been anything but straight up ignorant on soccer. So what’s yer point?
[quote]supermick wrote:
I love engaging in internet banter but when your arguing with total ignorance it makes it difficult.
In case anyone was interested The Czech republic just beat the USA 3-0. Now thats not to say you were bad, but this Czech team may proove to be a class ahead of a few teams by the end of the tournament. Nedved is a genius. You can still qualify for the seconf stange so rally round and support your guys.[/quote]
Agreed.
In addition, today’s horrific showing by the U.S. just makes winning out these last 2 games an utter requirement. A 1-0 loss would have been borderline tolerable, at least from a goals differential standpoint. But 3-0? Nothing but 2 wins will advance us to the knock-out rounds.
Well, wiping Saturday afternoon clean to watch the U.S./Italy match and hoping for the best…
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In addition, today’s horrific showing by the U.S. just makes winning out these last 2 games an utter requirement. A 1-0 loss would have been borderline tolerable, at least from a goals differential standpoint. But 3-0? Nothing but 2 wins will advance us to the knock-out rounds.
Well, wiping Saturday afternoon clean to watch the U.S./Italy match and hoping for the best…[/quote]
Good luck with that one - no way it’s gonna happen. Italy are gonna kill you lot. The first goal today was just laughable, 3 defenders there and not one thinks “hmmm, maybe I should mark the 6 foot 8 guy they are going to cross to.” Italy did ok today against a good, tough Ghana side and will definitely have the beating of you lot who don’t tackle as hard as Ghana or mark dangerous players. I don’t think you really have anyone talented enough to bother players like Nesta, Cannavaro and Buffon in net.
I can’t believe you got to the quarters a few years ago to be honest, USA are appalling especially defensively. The FIFA rankings are a joke, you’re actually ranked 5th in the world and Mexico are 4th! Suppose that’s what happens when you play the mighty Honduras or Panama in competitive games.
Yeah, I’m trying to turn a lame “soccer hate” thread into a proper discussion about football. Sue me dumbasses.
I’m going to finish by dishing out a big LMAO to all those who claimed that baseball is better than football because soccer is boring. Football is only uninteresting to those who don’t play or understand it, and those who are just plain idiots - same goes for almost any sports. Saying that the worlds most popular sport is just a group of guys kicking a ball into a net is like saying chess is a game where two guys try to trap the other guys king… naive. Well done on looking stupid.
[quote]makkun wrote:
I can clearly say that I am bored by almost any sport on a TV screen
Makkun[/quote]
That makes two of us.
[quote]adguig wrote:
I’m going to finish by dishing out a big LMAO to all those who claimed that baseball is better than football because soccer is boring. Football is only uninteresting to those who don’t play or understand it, and those who are just plain idiots - same goes for almost any sports. Saying that the worlds most popular sport is just a group of guys kicking a ball into a net is like saying chess is a game where two guys try to trap the other guys king… naive. Well done on looking stupid. [/quote]
agreed and the fifa rankings do suck.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
As for it being popular, who gives a fuck? Just because something is popular in a bunch of backwards ass contries like Brazil doesn’t make it good!
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are you retarded? you seem to have a very narrow view of the world? soccer and (some) sports in general transcend class. you are also calling most of europe backwards which further ads to ur stupidity.
I WOULD RATHER WATCH SOCCER THAN BASEBALL OR GOLF,BUT THEY ALL PRETTY MUCH SUCK
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are you retarded? you seem to have a very narrow view of the world? soccer and (some) sports in general transcend class. you are also calling most of europe backwards which further ads to ur stupidity.[/quote]
I didn’t say that every country that likes it is backwards, just that backwards countries like it.
This thread should have been locked after the first post. What a waste of bandwith.
I don’t hate soccer, but I don’t like it either. I just don’t enjoy watching it. I’m entertained by a lot of things, but this is not one of them. Hell, I hurried home from work so I could watch the end of the Spelling Bee a couple weeks ago.
I’m sure there are some great athlete’s in soccer, but I can’t believe anyone would call them the greatest athletes in the world. Let’s make a comparison. An athlete running, dribbling a soccer ball, with very good control, kicking it to precisely where he wants it to go. Or a wide receiver in football running full speed, across the middle of the field, catching a bullet of a pass, taking a blind sided hit, and still keeping possession of the ball. It seems to me the wide receiver is showing a wider set of athletic skills and thus a greater athlete.
I find soccer much more boring than baseball to watch. I know many will disagree with me, and yes, baseball has its share of boring games, too. But I see baseball as a duel with every pitch – the pitcher vs. the batter. All it takes is one mistake by either to lose “the duel.”
Additionally, soccer has the low-scoring factor. Baseball can be low-scoring too, but has the potential for for a four-point swing in a grand slam. What is the soccer equivalent?
I don’t hate soccer, but it doesn’t interest me. I know everybody has their preferences, and I would prefer to watch chess over soccer. And I mean that seriously.
Speaking of chess, I think a lot of people dislike football for a lack of understanding. It is slow paced, because it as a chess game. Each play has to serve a purpose, whether it is to advance the ball, set up a future play, or read the defense and look for weaknesses. It’s like chess in that each play is like a move. It really is a complicated game all about strategy. In fact, I would argue that it uses more strategy that any other sport, i.e. the coach makes the most difference in the game.
I look forward to some educated and intelligent responses and I think this thread has the potential to help people understand different sports. I hope we can steer away from comments like “football sucks” or “soccer is for sissies.”
Oh, one last thing about the perception of soccer in America. Doogie made a comment about soccer being for kids under. That’s a common perception because it’s really such a simple game. Yes I know it can get much more complicated, but at its roots it’s simple. Kick the ball into the goal. Try explaining football or baseball to a 9-year-old in one sentence.
I used to coach youth football and I refused to coach anyone below 10 years old. Kids that young are just too dumb too comprehend football at that age.
[quote]TeeVee69 wrote:
I think one of the biggest fears of nations who hate America is that some day, maybe soon, the USA will…gulp…win the World Cup.
And that Americans as a whole would not care in the very least.
For all the soccer-loving-American-hating nations, to have the top prize of their beloved sport won by a nation whose citizens don’t care is probably the ultimate humiliation.[/quote]
Yup, because you did well against czech mate, 3-0 was it?
[quote]superscience wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
If 90 minutes of watching people run up and down a field chasing a little white ball just bores the living hell out of you, then post here.
I can tolerate baseball, though often fall asleep on the rare occasion that I watch a game. Hockey is fine, mostly because of the fights, and its over in 60 minutes.
I know I’ll get flamed by the soccer crowd on here. Go ahead…it’ll certainly be more lively than soccer, ice dancing, and curling, and all such other ‘sports’.
HH
im not a soccer fan but i do enjoy watching the world cup, i enjoy a world cup in any sport.
although i can think of a lot more sports, more boring than soccer;
baseball
cricket
american football etc
i dont respect soccer players for their level of fitness because it sucks, american football sucks as a sport but the players are at very high level of fitness which is why its impressive.
baseball and cricket just suck.
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Now this comment probably makes me agree with the poster who said a lot of people don’t like sports because they don’t understand them. Cricket an amazing game, but NOT because it’s action packed. It’s great because it’s chess on a sportsfield, and I like chess.
[quote]doogie wrote:
alstan90 wrote:
If soccer is so bad why is it the most popular sport on the planet? And why does no-one else in the world except, say japan and canada, play your sports of baseball and american football?
The rest of the world is populated by pansy tards. Football is the reason we dominate the world. You can easily see the cause/effect relationship if you compare football’s popularity with our influence in the world.
Football teaches our boys to be men. It prepares them for the more important battles they will face someday. You’ll never see a damn pee-wee football league not keeping score so everyone feels like a winner. Football is step one in having the strongest military in the history of the world.
No other sport requires such an extensive amount of planning. No other sport is unable to be dominated by individual athletes. Football DEMANDS teamwork to win.
A few readings from the Book of Lombardi, all praise to him–
A game that requires the constant conjuring of animosity.
A man can be as great as he wants to be. If you believe in yourself and have the courage, the determination, the dedication, the competitive drive and if you are willing to sacrifice the little things in life and pay the price for the things that are worthwhile, it can be done.
A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall.
Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence.
Dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you’re willing to pay the price.
I firmly believe that any man’s finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.
If it doesn’t matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
Vince Lombardi
If winning isn’t everything, why do they keep score?
If you can accept losing you can’t win. If you can walk you can run. No one is ever hurt. Hurt is in your mind.
Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work.
It is time for us all to stand and cheer for the doer, the achiever - the one who recognizes the challenges and does something about it.
Leaders aren’t born they are made. And they are made just like anything else, through hard work. And that’s the price we’ll have to pay to achieve that goal, or any goal.
Life’s battles don’t always go to the stronger or faster man. But sooner or later the man who wins, is the man who thinks he can.
Mental toughness is many things. It is humility because it behooves all of us to remember that simplicity is the sign of greatness and meekness is the sign of true strength. Mental toughness is spartanism with qualities of sacrifice, self-denial, dedication. It is fearlessness, and it is love.
Once you agree upon the price you and your family must pay for success, it enables you to ignore the minor hurts, the opponent’s pressure, and the temporary failures.
Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect.
Show me a good loser, and I’ll show you a loser.
Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn’t do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will.
The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall.
The harder you work, the harder it is to surrender.
The leader can never close the gap between himself and the group. If he does, he is no longer what he must be. He must walk a tightrope between the consent he must win and the control he must exert.
The price of success is hard work, dedication to the job at hand, and the determination that whether we win or lose, we have applied the best of ourselves to the task at hand.
The quality of a person’s life is in direct proportion to their commitment to excellence, regardless of their chosen field of endeavor.
There is no room for second place. There is only one place in my game and that is first place. I have finished second twice in my time at Green Bay and I never want to finish second again.
We would accomplish many more things if we did not think of them as impossible.
Winners never quit and quitters never win.
Winning is not a sometime thing; it’s an all time thing. You don’t win once in a while, you don’t do things right once in a while, you do them right all the time. Winning is habit. Unfortunately, so is losing.
Football is like life, it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing.
Bud Wilkinson:
If a team is to reach its potential, each player must be willing to subordinate his personal goals to the good of the team.
Dan Birdwell:
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four
Knute Rockne:
Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up.
Dick Butkus:
When I played pro football, I never set out to hurt anyone deliberately - unless it was, you know, important, like a league game or something
John Steinbeck:
Sectional football games have the glory and the despair of war, and when a Texas team takes the field against a foreign state, it is an army with banners.
Ted Solotaroff:
A professional football team warms up grimly and disparately, like an army on maneuvers: the ground troops here, the tanks there, the artillery and air force over there.
Football is, after all, a wonderful way to get rid of your aggressions without going to jail for it. ~Heywood Hale Brown
Pro football is like nuclear warfare. There are no winners, only survivors. ~Frank Gifford
At the base of it was the urge, if you wanted to play football, to knock someone down, that was what the sport was all about, the will to win closely linked with contact. ~George Plimpton
Football is not a contact sport. It’s a collision sport. Dancing is a… contact sport. ~Duffy Daugherty
There are several differences between a football game and a revolution. For one thing, a football game usually lasts longer and the participants wear uniforms. Also, there are usually more casualties in a football game. The object of the game is to move a ball past the other team’s goal line. This counts as six points. No points are given for lacerations, contusions, or abrasions, but then no points are deducted, either. Kicking is very important in football. In fact, some of the more enthusiastic players even kick the ball, occasionally. ~Alfred Hitchcock
BRANDON HEFFERNAN:
Football is a game in which the team concept is paramount, and individual players are mere cogs in a machine programmed specifically for its current opponent. It’s a game of brute force and strategic finesse, one-on-one battles and overarching tactical concepts. In a country whose oldest motto is “don’t tread on me,” football is the most popular sport not because it’s a metaphor for war and land acquisition, but because it’s the metaphor for war and land acquisition. And no, this doesn’t mean you have to be into war to be into football. It was Alan Ginsberg, of all people, who said that he watches “for the display of the human form divine.” There’s something for everyone in this great game.
Those who dislike or are indifferent to football tend to incorrectly assume it’s a game of brawn, a game of muscled thugs imparting structured violence on other muscled thugs. Fans of the game know better. We know it’s a game of brains, and it uses strength, speed, and the element of surprise to carry out its commands.
Some random blog:
Football is, rather explicitly, a reduction of first- and second- generation war tactics, with all the quasi-nationalist trappings, both with the teams and with the overt nationalism before each and every game. Formations, set plays and techniques and positions – that’s first- and second-generation warfare there. The fans, the colors, the symbols, all of it – it’s war without the blood. That’s fine; our lizard brains still need that from time to time.[/quote]
No mate, I think THAT is the most retarded thing i’ve ever heard. Strongest military in history? Well that isn’t exactly true, is it? Especially since you barely have a history, going back more than 400 years. So I guess you are presuming you have the strongest military in the world today, right?
Except Iran, the country you want to invade, have larger armed forces available, as do russia, china, india, and quite a number of other countries. Also, the U.S army, while significant in number is well known to be the worst trained in the developed world. Hence, look how well you have done in Iraq, just blow everything up, and i’m not even one of those people that thinks that the war was wrong.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
I didn’t say that every country that likes it is backwards, just that backwards countries like it.
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what’s the point of saying this?
again, soccer supercedes class and economic development. us in america don’t seem to care for soccer bc it is not fast paced nor “physical”. baseball’s the most boring popular sport to watch. It’s popular bc of it’s tradition of being america’s pasttime. would soccer have had the same type of attachment to america’s past societies then you bet it would be highly popular today.
I see this is another thread to be abused by trolls that have nothing better to do
[quote]Hanzo wrote:
what’s the point of saying this?
again, soccer supercedes class and economic development. us in america don’t seem to care for soccer bc it is not fast paced nor “physical”. baseball’s the most boring popular sport to watch. It’s popular bc of it’s tradition of being america’s pasttime. would soccer have had the same type of attachment to america’s past societies then you bet it would be highly popular today.[/quote]
Soccer will NEVER be popular here, like baseball is. Because it is boring as fuck. I don’t even think that Bush making 20 million illegal immigrant soccer fans legal here will even make it popular here either.
This game is for kids and emasculated soccer mom types. It’s the reason why so many Euro-poofs are such a lot of wimpy looking pencil necks.
Why the fuck it is being jacked off about on a weightlifting webboard is beyond me. At least baseball players lift weights and get big. Soccer players just run and look like pencilnecks.
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
Hanzo wrote:
what’s the point of saying this?
again, soccer supercedes class and economic development. us in america don’t seem to care for soccer bc it is not fast paced nor “physical”. baseball’s the most boring popular sport to watch. It’s popular bc of it’s tradition of being america’s pasttime. would soccer have had the same type of attachment to america’s past societies then you bet it would be highly popular today.
Soccer will NEVER be popular here, like baseball is. Because it is boring as fuck. I don’t even think that Bush making 20 million illegal immigrant soccer fans legal here will even make it popular here either.
This game is for kids and emasculated soccer mom types. It’s the reason why so many Euro-poofs are such a lot of wimpy looking pencil necks.
Why the fuck it is being jacked off about on a weightlifting webboard is beyond me. At least baseball players lift weights and get big. Soccer players just run and look like pencilnecks.
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So from this we can take it that all sports that dont require masses of muscle are populated by pencilnecks?
Is cycling shitty?
What about 400m runners, not exactly jacked?
also, i thought this board was populated by bodybuilders and powerlifters too, not to mention other sports. Or is it just for you weightlifters? Or maybe you used the wrong terminology? Again…
Im not into bashing any sports as thats just childish. I can appreciate a sport (so long as it is a sport and not a game/pastime) but you need to ask yourself, out of the big american sports only Basketball is truely Global. The rest of the world, for a variety of reasons doesnt like the stop start unflowing nature of the others amoung other things. Just watch a game of soccer. Brazil is on tonight. Enjoy!! And stop being a prick, if you can help it.