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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
edit* remember, the eotech is unique in that you keep both eyes open when looking through it. your shooting (dominant) eye looks through the site, and your other eye stays open on the target, and your brain puts the two together. if anything, i find target aquisition faster and my groups tighter when doing mozambque (sp?) drills and the like.
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  1. I thought the best way was to always shoot with both eyes open, regardless of whether you were using open sights, scopes or quick acquisition sights. Anyways that’s how I learned.

  2. Is the Mozambique Drill the same as the Rhodesian Drill? Double tap to center of mass, one to the head.

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1.) when i qualify with irons, i scan with both eyes open, then once i get target alinement i close my left eye.

I also zero my weapon with my left eye closed. you keep both eyes open?

2.) yes.

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[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
1.) when i qualify with irons, i scan with both eyes open, then once i get target alinement i close my left eye.

I also zero my weapon with my left eye closed. you keep both eyes open?

2.) yes.[/quote]

Yeah. Never learned to shut my left eye independently. I can shut my right eye or both eyes. So I just learned to shoot with both eyes open. Probably why I’m most comfortable with handguns and short barreled carbines. Took me a while to figure out how to sight thru scopes too.

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[quote]Bujo wrote:

  1. I thought the best way was to always shoot with both eyes open, regardless of whether you were using open sights, scopes or quick acquisition sights. Anyways that’s how I learned.

  2. Is the Mozambique Drill the same as the Rhodesian Drill? Double tap to center of mass, one to the head.[/quote]

I’m not so sure that there is a “best way” to “always” shoot. How you sight from arms length to 20 feet is different from how you would sight beyond 20 feet.

http://www.pointshooting.com/fof.htm

Likewise, to put two in the chest, then one in the head make take different sight pictures.

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Push, I seem to remember seeing that rifle on another thread, but I don’t think I gave proper accolades. That is a beautiful weapon.

Oh, one small semantic point.

Although Thor could easily crush an elk with one hand, he’d likely use his hammer, just as a matter of etiquette. So I think it might be better to say “crushes elk like the hammer of Thor.”

Similarly, unless you are in the habit of dispatching your quarry by sneaking up on it and bludgeoning it with the butt of your rifle, it would be the bullet that does the crushing, and therefore the bullet that ought to be referenced in the above simile.

(Incidentally, the word “elk” is cognate to the word “elg” in Norwegian (which Thor speaks, naturally), and actually refers to Alces alces, which we know in this country as a “moose.”)

So if you were in the mood, and felt like confounding friend and enemy alike, you could (good naturedly, of course) hold up one of those mighty copper projectiles and say, “this crushes elg like Mjöllnir!”

(Don’t forget the umlaut. It’s important.)

Cheers!

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Pushharder = Thor

Rifle = Right hand of Thor

.338/378 Weatherby cartridge case = Handle of Mjöllnir

Blinding muzzle flash of slow-burning cannon powder = Lightning

Deafening report of mighty rifle in silent Montana forest = Thunder

250-grain copper projectile = Elg-crushing head of Mjöllnir

Satisfied?

Point of interest: the word mjöllnir literally means “crusher.”

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[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Likewise, to put two in the chest, then one in the head make take different sight pictures.
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Actually you should have 4 sight pictures for failure drills (2 to the chest 1 to the head).

sight picture - initial shot
sight picture - second shot
sight picture - third shot
sight picture - recovery

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Is she not a beautiful lil missile?[/quote]

that’s one helluva of a round Push!

I have a decent collection, having bought and sold a variety over the years. One consistent thing has been my remington rifles, which I have two of and two glocks. I bought and sold some 1911s an HK rifle and pistol and a Sako Varmint rifle in 6mm or 243, I forget.

I sold an M14 style rifle built by a local guy and an AR.

I recently bought a few kimbers, compact aluminum frame, Grand Raptor II and an SIS full size wo rail I just don’t like rails. It seems to throw my balance off in the hand compared to a full size 1911.

I have a bushmaster in the AR config in 223 and 6.8, a 50 caliber w bushnell 6500 scope. I think it’s 4 to 30 X.

Remington classic 300 weatherby magnum, a ruger and remington in 308. One being a police model. A tika 243 for my daughter and a model 600 remington 308.

I have a Taurus Judge and don’t like it much. It just doesn’t seem well balanced in my hand. I’ll keep this one since it might have some collectors value.

A few pocket pistols like a beretta 22 and 32, and a kel tec 380. A S&W 500 magnum because it was a great deal and I’m a little goofy, ruger 22 semiauto, 357 ruger sp 101 with a 2 " barrel.

A Browning, Benelli, and Remington 12 gauge in A5, super 90 and 1187. the Super 90 is duracoated in a camo pattern for turkey. I like the ghost ring sites. The 1187 is now at the smith getting the same treatment.

I have a commander sized SA 1911 that came new from a local gunsmith by the name of John Yanek . I think he was the pistolsmith of the year back in the 90s once. He also made my sp 101 double action only and bobbed the hammer. no need for me to have a 2" barrel single action revolver.

Shoots nice groups at up to 10 yards.

I also have a few 2 rifles, a 1022, a sako 22 bolt action, and a ruger bol action. I bought both my ruger rifles in the synthetic stainless versions. Both shoot very well. The 308 will shoot 1" at a 100 yards w Hornady 165 gr light mags.

I have another 45 in SA XD config with a 4" barrel shoots ok, but I mainly bought it because it was hardly used and only400$.

Probably forgetting some, but that’s what happens when you buy and trade.

BTW Varganir, is 1595$ or so a decent price for a new SA M14 style rifle. A good local shop has one and I’m getting the itch.

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A sort of funny or strange story, some local guys here are really into long range bench rest. I think one fellow has set world records and so on.

But they actual PA. white tail! I thought that was a little weird, but they said we shoot them from a mile or so Tom so it isn’t to bad. To each his own I guess, but i thought it was a little silly.

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BTW guys, a local gun shop owner told me that the next tough caliber to get will be 22 lr. He said that the ammo manufactures have been attmepting to crank up the stadard calibers like 9mm, 45 acp, 308, 223 7.62 x 39 and such.

22 is being put on the back burner for now. this is what I was told, there is no way to verify this. I bought 6 bricks this week and might get a few more next week.

Also, the local shop owner told me he had never sold a conversion kit before the current run. He sold plenty the last few weeks. I bought a 22 conversion for the AR and had one for my kimber.

The kimber kit is hit a dime accurate at 10 yards with CCI mini mags. Also, use high speed 22 for these kits, like mini mags and such. The lower speed rounds might not cycle and jam.

Take this with a grain of salt, but I have seen decent ammo in 22 go from 12 bucks or so to 25 or so in two years.

Stock up on this first, 100 bucks will get 2000 rounds and give you a lot of great practice.

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too lazy to take a real pic of mine… will do sometime though…

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another boring pic…

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
BTW Varganir, is 1595$ or so a decent price for a new SA M14 style rifle. A good local shop has one and I’m getting the itch.

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New Springfield Armory in the box?

Let me guess: Walnut stock, carbon steel 22-inch barrel, standard trigger group, standard iron sights, muzzle brake, right?

If so, that’s a good price. I would recommend buying it.

If not (i.e., fiberglass stock, stainless barrel, national match trigger, NM sights, NM flash hider), then that is a fucking excellent price, and your itch should turn to a burning inflammation which propels you out of your chair this instant and into that gun store with cash in hand.

A year from now, whatever you pay for this rifle, its parts, its magazines, and its ammunition will look ridiculously cheap.

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[quote]xb-C wrote:
I started a thread awhile back inquiring about a new rifle, well I finally purchased a 1939 Mosin Nagant.

Field stripped her, and everything looks A ok.
These rifles are known to be pretty damn reliable, loud, with a huge muzzle flash.

I took her to the range last Saturday and had a great time.
This was a big jump from my Winchester .22 but it was cool. Shoulder was definitely sore after this trip.

Anyways, this is pointless without pics so here are a few.

And if anyone else is a firearm enthusiast please feel free to share any and all information about your firearms/experiences.

My next purchase will either be a good pump shotgun, or Berreta 92fs.

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Bought a '39 Nagant last year - love shooting this gun. Great accuracy evenover iron sights. Rugged and reliable

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1)Classic first-timer Ruger 10/22
2)(I forgot the make it’s something like H&R or England something or other) .410 single barrel shotgun
3)Ruger M77/50
4)Mossberg 500
5)Winchester .300 SM
6)Taurus Judge
7)Glock 33 (.40 S&W barrel shortly afterwards)
8)Ruger LCP

Not a bad start for a young age in my opinion.

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[quote]tom63 wrote:
BTW guys, a local gun shop owner told me that the next tough caliber to get will be 22 lr. He said that the ammo manufactures have been attmepting to crank up the stadard calibers like 9mm, 45 acp, 308, 223 7.62 x 39 and such.

22 is being put on the back burner for now. this is what I was told, there is no way to verify this. I bought 6 bricks this week and might get a few more next week.

Also, the local shop owner told me he had never sold a conversion kit before the current run. He sold plenty the last few weeks. I bought a 22 conversion for the AR and had one for my kimber.

The kimber kit is hit a dime accurate at 10 yards with CCI mini mags. Also, use high speed 22 for these kits, like mini mags and such. The lower speed rounds might not cycle and jam.

Take this with a grain of salt, but I have seen decent ammo in 22 go from 12 bucks or so to 25 or so in two years.

Stock up on this first, 100 bucks will get 2000 rounds and give you a lot of great practice.[/quote]

I learned to shoot on a .45 Colt with a .22 conversion. Prices must be going up in your neck of the woods, I bought two 500rnd bricks of .22LR for 13$ a piece a few weeks ago. But its good to hear they might kick up production of larger calibers, I haven’t seen anything on the shelves anywhere lately.