[quote]Canada_K wrote:
Well that went swimmingly.
My first discussion with my wife was choppy. Here is a direct, completely non-exaggerated quote:
“I will never, ever support you doing a show. I think it’s disgusting and if you do it, it will be without me. I hate all of the people involved too.”
Clearly some more discussion is in order.
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That sucks, I would have had a MAJOR meltdown.
[quote]Canada_K wrote:
Well that went swimmingly.
My first discussion with my wife was choppy. Here is a direct, completely non-exaggerated quote:
“I will never, ever support you doing a show. I think it’s disgusting and if you do it, it will be without me. I hate all of the people involved too.”
Clearly some more discussion is in order.
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So why all the hate? What does she not like about it ? I guess i’m lucky because my wife understands that lifting is a part of my life and its something I enjoy. She deals with it as long as I don’t let it totally consumes other more important aspects of life associated with are family. That and as long as I don’t go on a spending spree for goodies for the garage.
I just don’t understand why she would get all hung up about it. Its not like your going out with the guys at night and slugging down booze and coming home drunk. My point of view there are far worse things that you could be doing. Apparently she cant grasp the overall concept.
To play Devil’s advocate a bit (and at the risk of enraging people MUCH, MUCH stronger than me), there are some significant differences between recreational lifting vs. powerlifting vs. body building.
I’d argue that of the three, body building has the most impact on your day to day life. It’s not just about the 1.5/2hrs a day in the gym. It’s about how you spend all 24, 7 days a week leading up to the show.
Arguably there are some diet requirements for PL’ing in terms of being optimally fed and on weight for your meet, but the degree to which you care how you LOOK is much different than how you FEEL. In my mind, it take’s a great deal longer to change how you LOOK (lean vs. shredded) than it does to change how you feel (strong vs weak).
It impacts things such as your meals (forget about dining out during contest prep), the amount of sleep you need/get, how many hours you’re actually training (don’t forget the cardio). There’s obviously some similarities between all three disciplines, but I would argue (from my perspective) that body building is the most extreme of the three.
I did my show sans children/family and it had enough impact on familial relationships to warrant considerable discussion during. From “inside”, we generally don’t see the big deal since we all love and worship the iron game (whatever version you “play”). Put yourself on the “outside” and it looks like a much different picture.
Just my $.02.
Obviously my observations/opinions are based on someone who has done a body building show and observed people participating in PL’ing. By no means an expert in either area.
^^^^ I’m not competitive, just a recreational lifter, but I agree with everything you said.
I don’t think you’ll find many will disagree.
[quote]Canada_K wrote:
Well that went swimmingly.
My first discussion with my wife was choppy. Here is a direct, completely non-exaggerated quote:
“I will never, ever support you doing a show. I think it’s disgusting and if you do it, it will be without me. I hate all of the people involved too.”
Clearly some more discussion is in order.
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Not sure how my wife would react. She doesn’t understand why someone would want to slave away in the gym, but she does understand that it is very important to me. That being said, I’m not sure she’d think too highly of me up on stage in a banana-hammock.
Actually, I think her biggest problem would be with the dieting that would be required. She loves to cook, and she’s great at it - I don’t think she’d like the idea of such a limited menu to work with.
I think I’ll test her on it, and see how she reacts.
Getting caught up here. First, happy bday old man. Second, sorry about the support issue at home. Don’t know what to say there. I know my wife has struggled with some of the more extreme aspects of my lifestyle, but I also she is crazy enough to enjoy the fact that her 270lb meathead gorilla husband is benching something in the 700s…
Having tinkered enough in the bb spectrum, and having some friends and acquaintances who have competed at NPC level, yeah, I think training for a bb show can potentially have a more negative impact on relationships that PL.
I also have been known to get a little myopic/obsessed the few weeks before a meet. Literally I usually only at that point want to lift, eat, sleep and f@#$.
With BB you have a whole slew of other items to worry about, and typically in a half starved state.
About a year ago I popped into one of the gyms I use, and this kid I know was 8 weeks out from his 3rd show. Looking pretty good too, but he had that vacant look already. so I asked him “does it seem like everyone is eating McDonalds?”
His eyes widened and he said “Yeah, my f@#$ing roomates are a@!holes, pizza and beer five nights a week.”
His support structure wasn’t there. But he fought through it and ended up doing pretty well.
Not sure if I am being a help at all here, good luck with working towards your goals.
[quote]ManfromMass wrote:
[quote]Canada_K wrote:
Well that went swimmingly.
My first discussion with my wife was choppy. Here is a direct, completely non-exaggerated quote:
“I will never, ever support you doing a show. I think it’s disgusting and if you do it, it will be without me. I hate all of the people involved too.”
Clearly some more discussion is in order.
[/quote]
Not sure how my wife would react. She doesn’t understand why someone would want to slave away in the gym, but she does understand that it is very important to me. That being said, I’m not sure she’d think too highly of me up on stage in a banana-hammock.
Actually, I think her biggest problem would be with the dieting that would be required. She loves to cook, and she’s great at it - I don’t think she’d like the idea of such a limited menu to work with.
I think I’ll test her on it, and see how she reacts.[/quote]
What…test her with the banana hammock !!!
Definitely agree with ddot’s perspective, from an outsiders POV of course as I am not a competitive lfter.
JUST THE FACTS MA’AM
Totally blah today. Not feeling it at all.
TUESDAY - DL & back
531 Deadlift - 3x215, 3x250, 5x280
A1 DB rows - 10x80, 9x80, 8x80, 8x80
A2 good mornings - 8x95, 8x95, 8x95, 8x95
pullups - 17, 11, 10, 7
B1 rollouts - 10, 8, 8
B2 reverse curls - 10x60, 10x60, 10x60
I am weary. I spend a lot of time battling to make time for this pursuit… a lot. I’m used to that, it’s been my reality for over a decade. But let me tell you something, it’s hard enough living this lifestyle. It’s much, much more difficult doing it under adverse circumstances. It downright infuriating. Right now, I’m in head-down-power-through-it mode and bull-headed stubborness that is ALL that is keeping me on track.
The fun gets drained away pretty easily without a support network.
Well the wife and I are at least talking rationally now. It seems at least possible to discuss. We’ll take it from here and see where it goes. I’ll have more time to respond to all of you personally in a while. And snap, your point about leg presses resonates pretty loudly. They’re gone; front squats it is!
Just keep your preparations secret from your wife.
Like you do with your cross-dressing.
Getting caught up here. First Happy Birthday. Never competed in anything like this so no perspective. Best of luck.
RANDOM THOUGHTS
I bought 10 different types and flavors of vegan protein from Trueprotein. So far they all taste like chalk and leave a HIGHLY PLEASANT coating on my teeth. Ugh.
I’m reading a piece of fiction for teens written by Canadian science fiction icon Monica Hughes (Keeper of the Isis Light). What I think I enjoy most is the pace. A highly charged conflict between the two main characters, which in a Stephen King novel would consume 8-10 chapters, played out in about 3 pages. It’s refreshing.
I got some routine bloodwork done for my anunal physical. Apparently I tested positive for LOW THYROID!!! Symptoms include weight gain (no), low energy (definitely not), lethargy (nope), and excessive sleep (as if!). The doctor and I suspect a false positive and I’ve been sent for a re-test. Can you imagine me on thyroid hormone?!?!?! I’d hit f##king orbit!
All y’all, I’m too far behind in my logging to thank eveyrone individually. But I do deeply appreciate the birthday wishes, the support, and the dickhead humor. You all suck.
Happy late birthday. So, if we suck does that mean you swallow?
Sorry the wife isn’t behind you on what you want to do. Putting your down and grinding through it is one to go, but prolly not the best. I like that you talked a lot of it out with her and got through a lot of it. Shows maturity, didn’t mean to insult:). Maybe you can convince this is the only show you want to do.
All I know about the BB lifestyle I have read in articles from here and elitefts. Its not an easy life on you, much less the family. I hope the two of you can come to an agreement. One that lets you do it would be even better. I feel that to do it well, you would need her help on it.
[quote]Canada_K wrote:
RANDOM THOUGHTS
I bought 10 different types and flavors of vegan protein from Trueprotein. So far they all taste like chalk and leave a HIGHLY PLEASANT coating on my teeth. Ugh.
I’m reading a piece of fiction for teens written by Canadian science fiction icon Monica Hughes (Keeper of the Isis Light). What I think I enjoy most is the pace. A highly charged conflict between the two main characters, which in a Stephen King novel would consume 8-10 chapters, played out in about 3 pages. It’s refreshing.
I got some routine bloodwork done for my anunal physical. Apparently I tested positive for LOW THYROID!!! Symptoms include weight gain (no), low energy (definitely not), lethargy (nope), and excessive sleep (as if!). The doctor and I suspect a false positive and I’ve been sent for a re-test. Can you imagine me on thyroid hormone?!?!?! I’d hit f##king orbit!
All y’all, I’m too far behind in my logging to thank eveyrone individually. But I do deeply appreciate the birthday wishes, the support, and the dickhead humor. You all suck.[/quote]
have you tried any non-veggie protein from TP? I am interested in their stuff but I’d like some info on it.
Shit I just typed this novel and screwed I up somehow.
When I met my wife, I was winding down a judo ‘career’ where I trained 15 plus hours
and taught and coached at least that.
Ahe missed the bulk of that
But she accepts tht I train and soley that it keeps me pleasant is enough
But I have concessions like not training on weekends so we can have family stuffs.
Maybe that angle can work. That its something important to your mental health,
And that at 40 it’s been a goal for a while.
And somehow you can convince her that fuchsia tights, oil , pro tanned,
waxed,and cavorting around in front of a group with questionable sexuality
is all normal and something you need to do.
I mean who can dispute that kind of logic
And yes please to some info on true protein please
I type this on an iPad I’m not that bad with spelling usually
I’m glad you and the missus are talking about it. However, given her initial sharpness, it sounded like there was something really emotional about it. Or was she in a really bad mood?
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
Just keep your preparations secret from your wife.
Like you do with your cross-dressing.[/quote]
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[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
Just keep your preparations secret from your wife.
Like you do with your cross-dressing.[/quote]
Amazing how you slip these seemingly innocuous little statements in.
Sort of like “have you stopped beating your wife?”
A “yes” answer implies you once beat her. A “no” answer implies you still do.
[quote]big nurse wrote:
[quote]ManfromMass wrote:
[quote]Canada_K wrote:
Well that went swimmingly.
My first discussion with my wife was choppy. Here is a direct, completely non-exaggerated quote:
“I will never, ever support you doing a show. I think it’s disgusting and if you do it, it will be without me. I hate all of the people involved too.”
Clearly some more discussion is in order.
[/quote]
Not sure how my wife would react. She doesn’t understand why someone would want to slave away in the gym, but she does understand that it is very important to me. That being said, I’m not sure she’d think too highly of me up on stage in a banana-hammock.
Actually, I think her biggest problem would be with the dieting that would be required. She loves to cook, and she’s great at it - I don’t think she’d like the idea of such a limited menu to work with.
I think I’ll test her on it, and see how she reacts.[/quote]
What…test her with the banana hammock !!!
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Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure I know exactly how that would go…
If you cook dinner for your wife while wearing a banana hammock and a bowtie good things happen. Just sayin’