Well, your assumptions seems misplaced. I was not attacking high achievers in this thread. Many people in this thread have said that my argument would apply to the arts and sciences too. But I have stated that the weeding out process to only find the best in those benefits society. It is good to only have the best doing science than everyone being a theoretical physicist. There is no such benefit by making sports out to be this system to find the people who will be pro. Its a negative to have a society who only participates in sports through passive viewing. It would be far better for sports to have the mentality of certain martial arts like bjj, where there is not a focus on the pros but the focus is on individual improvement.
What is the benefit of weeding out someone who wants to be a professional writer or singer?
Why do you refuse to accept that professional sports can inspire?
I am trying to visualize what the USA would look like if @Adamrere had his desire today. Tomorrow morning:
- There would be no NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL along with various other professional teams (and donāt forget he must have his beloved track and field athletes return to amateur status.
- No college athletes would leave college early to play pro ball.
- The only professional wrestling would be the WWE and other like federations
- The support staff for the various professional sports and complement vendors would need to find employment elsewhere.
- No one would feel inadequate because they failed to have the athletic talent to be a professional athlete.
My assumptions are misplaced?
As said, many of us got such messages quickly. As young as early teenage years we realized that other kids were smarter, better looking, and stronger. Yet somehow weāre here without wrecked self images. Why?
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How should I know? The people on this site could be different from general society. It could be that you are not but most people are. Plenty of people feel inadequate just because they are short. Its not hard to believe that years of training to achieve elite status in sports with the naivety of youth only to fail in the end can have negative psychological consequences for many.
The person would have to be training where he had no idea the level of competition he was working to excel. Not happening to any significant percentage of people. Maybe 0.005%.
Do you have even one real life example of this happening to anybody but yourself?
All this talk of broken kids killing themselves?
Any substantiation what so ever?
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My assumptions are misplaced?
As said, many of us got such messages quickly. As young as early teenage years we realized that other kids were smarter,
And whose fault is it that reality sets in? What if someone tries very hard, gets good grades, but is saddened when he doesnāt get accepted to the college he was aiming for?
Yeah. And? Iām 5ā10ā. I feel short next to many men. Sometimes Iāve even thought to myself, āDamn, Iām pretty short,ā when in the presence of several tall men, and Iām reminded how much weaker and ordinary looking I am compared to other stronger and handsome men when I attend my gym.
Do these men or anyone else owe me something?
The average american mans height is literally 5ā9
Same in Aus
You arenāt shortā¦ lolā¦ iām short enough to call myself short. You havenāt earned the short card!
Nor do you look weak. You have a stronger looking physique relative to 99.9% of men your age.
Going to a gym full of bodybuilders isnāt going to impart a realistic representstion over whar the men your age normally look like. Most men your age work a desk job and eat donuts every day.
Speaking of whichā¦ Iām gonna buy a donutā¦ theyāre fanā¦tasticā¦
The most popular sports, the oneās whose stars are idolized, are team sports. In the US thatās basketball, football, and baseball. The reason most people stop playing these at a certain time in their life is NOT because there are famous pros better than them, itās because these sports require several people to participate (18 for a baseball game), requires that those people have continued to practice to be reasonable at it (ever tried hitting or pitching a baseball after not practicing it for a long time?), and it also requires that they have stayed in shape to the extent they can jump, throw, sprint, dive, etcā¦ Most in our society canāt do this past childhood. They are flabby, untrained, and would hurt themselves. Society would be far worse if large swathes of obese individuals tried to swing a bat and spring out an infield single. They would rip up knees, hamstrings, etcā¦
Most people, at least those moderately active, can more easily find a tennis partner (though pickle ball is becoming easier) or can get a tee time and drive their fat ass around the golf course on a cart. Thatās why most adults you talk to might play tennis or golf as an activity, but rarely play a team sport that requires practice, physical fitness, and many other people to have a game. Itās NOT because they feel bad about themselves because Patrick Mahomes is a better QB than them.
The WWE product quality would skyrocket. Count me in.
Right.
During my time at my high school, we had two athletes who went onto the NBA, Royal Ivey and Rafer Alston. Iām wondering how many kids experienced emotional breakdowns, including their own teammates, because they couldnāt make it.
I also donāt recall anyone making fun of us klutzes who played ball games at the local park for fun.
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We had a ton of kids who got football scholarships.
There has to be millions of dollars in scholarships awarded yearly through out the US. Many thousands of kids getting a good head start in life that they otherwise wouldnt have, or would have to pay dearly for.
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Jesus, I stepped out for like 2 days and came back 200+ replies later.
For someone who cares so much about time wasted watching professional sports, there sure is a lot of time wasted in this thread.
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Ok. So I did this thing today that reminded me of this.
I made this bushing to absorb vibration of a radiator Iām replacing.
So theres a bolt going up, and a compression nut going down, held tight by a jamb nut so that you can turn the bolt into the feet of the radiator which goes down, then loosen t&e jamb nut from the compression nut to tighten the radiator to the through bolt/bushing.
So thats how up goes down and then down up. Because you have to loosen it to tighten it.
So Thats nuts.
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I think I see it now! This all makes perfect sense. The OP meant to say:
āThe focus on Society is Bad for Professional Sportsā
I think we all agree that social issues, when infused into our NFL games, are simply distracting us from the importance of these athletic events. Pink shoes? Kneeling during anthems? We just want to watch our idols dominant on the court and field, and not be reminded of societal issues.
After I realized this simple typo, the OP and I are now aligned. I apologize to @Adamrere for arguing against this very reasonable (and quite clever) take on pro sports.
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