The Flame-Free Confession Thread II

Classic quote, and I paraphrase: Change the world by raising good kids. If you don’t have kids, coach, teach, or mentor. If you don’t want to do those things, keep your hands off them.

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Except for it being all bullshit you mean. You know how many serious issues they have caused like strokes by performing neck adjustments.

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Who hasn’t Lyle gone after? I’m surprised he made his way to an annual ISSN conference a few years ago. If I was involved in such heated disputes, including ones with other men’s women, I’d be fearing for my safety at a public event. If I recall correctly he referred to some women with the C word, and I could be wrong but there were definitely horrible words used, sometimes on the women’s FB walls.

Naw. I have 500 better uses for my time then siting in a Kenny Rogers roasters light for 30 minutes

Yes. I think it is better to set a good example.

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You don’t need to run an 8 minute mile to be qualified to treat an illness.

This walk the talk argument is odd. It’s like saying don’t trust a pharmacist unless they are on adderral and Xanax.

Not really sure where I’m going with this. Just like the comedic idea of a pharmacist having to test the supplies the be qualified to dish out Percocet.

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Oh man yeah that’s a whole other issue, I just meant that, at least from the chiros I’ve seen or know about, they tend to be physically fit and healthy.

At the very least, they appear outwardly healthier than the majority of nurses, occupational therapist and speech pathologists that I’ve seen around the place.

Without trying to make too much fun of someone who has bi polar disorder, he is a literal meme of the scrawny key board warrior. But he does know his shit

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I disagree, it would be more like a pharmacist being unwilling to prescribe or use medication themselves.

As a healthcare professional, one takes on the role to improve the health of others through varying therapies. One of the issues, historically, with the Western approach to healthcare was to treat symptoms rather than route causes of issues. A classic example is a GP prescribing NSAIDS or worse, corticosteroids (e.g. heparin), to deal with a patient’s chronic inflammation, when the issue is more likely to be related to diet and body composition. A similar example, perhaps more relevant to this forum, is a trainer prescribing stretching and foam rolling of the pecs to deal with the tight chest, and rounded and internally rotated shoulders a typical desk jockey might show up with. This is treating the symptom. Treating the cause would be to 1: correct the client’s posture, and 2: strengthen the external rotators of the rotator cuff and the scapular retractors.

In general, or at least in Australia, healthcare bodies are moving away from the former approach, treating symptoms, and recommending professionals do their best to treat causes, the alternative. Often, that solution is improving diet and exercise. Thus, how can we expect a mostly sedentary, unhealthy professional to successfully recommend or patient-educate such treatments?

I’m not saying every HC worker needs a CSCS, Bachelor in Exercise Phys or some nutrition qualification, but a basic level of personal experience is extremely useful. Furthermore, many recent studies show that patients’ outcomes are not dictated by their carers’ competence as much as it is by the patients’ trust and connections with said carer. There are obviously confounding factors here, but that’s quite an important result.

The way I see it, a patient is going to be much more likely to trust a advice about physical activity and diet from a carer who is in fact outwardly healthy.

Do I think the standard needs to be excessively high? No.

Does an oncologist need to be able to squat 225? No.

However, particularly in the case of the general practitioner, who gives very general advice about non-specific pathologies, 100% stand by my statement.

@EyeDentist I’m very interested on your take

Nurses are very often physically and mentally worn down from having to work many hours because of enormous employee turnover. Couple that with having children, a husband, and a home, and the last thing some even think about is the gym and food prep. I work with them and see this.

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Great point, but an obese nurse (shockingly common) or even one in poor cardiovascular shape is going to far more exhausted from doing the same work as a healthy one

I’d just like to add that I was far too harsh in my initial post.

Requirement? Maybe not, but at the very least it needs to be an expectation

Some people are so slow its baffling…

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I’ve been playing with the idea of getting a sports massage. Used to go to a chiro pretty often but now I only go if I tweak something so I can save a little money. Problem is, a sports massage is more expensive than an adjustment although I think it would help more.

So I thought of a solution and posted it to my class’s group page. Sometimes you gotta improvise.

I’m studying physio and we do the same thing :joy:

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You’ve been watching me do box jumps

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I cannot jump. I mean, obviously I can jump. I just can’t jump high or long. About the only thing I can do moderately fast is run over short distances.

I know men who in their younger years, say 25 and younger, would set it on someone like him (two or more versus one too) if he were to publicly humiliate them. Aggravated-assault type stuff.

Last day of a three day safety audit at work today. Was doing ok food wise with my home prepared meals until one of my office ladies brings out the homemade scones with jam and cream!! Once I got through those it was onto the caramel slices, and then the chocolate cookies. So glad the transformation is over !!

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