The Flame-Free Confession Thread II

@bulldog9899 he was able to get a lot of people stronger, quickly. He created the base of barbell training for millions of people, some of whom have gone on to have successful lifting careers. Right now he’s a meme, but he’s done a lot of work in the Strength community in his years as a coach and I appreciate that.

@FlatsFarmer you forgot to adjust so he could look at the floor.

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Confession: I think I’m going to start binge watching Rick and Morty.

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@liftangryordie500 Oh understand I do respect him for what he has done in the big picture. I just do not agree with 100% of everything he might say regarding certain aspect of training. Which on the internet for some reason means you hate someone with zero grey area.

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I confess that I absolutely went off on the first shift supervisor in front of all our employees today (I’m 2nd shift supervisor).

Last night, the plant manager asked me to wrap up some cylinders for shipping the next day. These cylinders are 16 feet long and 15” in diameter, so by yourself it’s actually quite a bitch to wrap 5 of them up, while still having my regular workload. Anyway, I don’t go near shipping much, so I asked how they wanted the cylinders wrapped, since we have like 8 different packaging materials. The first shift supervisor chimes in, “white paper and plastic.” I’m like okay, is there anything you want to show me? He goes “no man, it’s simple, white paper and plastic.” So I wrap them all up in white paper and plastic.

The next day (today), I get there and the shipping guys tell me the cylinders should have been wrapped in foam and plastic. So I pull the first shift supervisor aside, and quietly - so as not to be calling him out in front of other employees - say, “hey, just so you know, those cylinders were supposed to be wrapped in foam, not white paper.” He gets wide-eyed, and then stutters, before saying, LOUDLY, “you screwed me over with that, because I said white FOAM paper.” So I just looked at him and said, “what did you say?” He goes, “I told you white foam paper.”

So at this point, I’m so taken aback that somebody could say something so fucking ridiculous. There’s white paper, and then foam. Nobody would ever say white foam paper, and id sure as shit have clarified if he said something twice to me that didn’t exist. Needless to say, I lost it and just saw red, and started yelling at him that he was a lying piece of shit, and that he’s passing the buck on his fuckup, and to never ask me for anything again. I turn and walk off, and he starts following me, at which point I told him that if he came any closer, we’d have a serious problem. He backed off, let me cool off, and I went up to him later for the shift update, and he still never said sorry, or that he was mistaken.

The plant manager found me later and asked what was all this he was hearing about me yelling, and I just asked him, what did the day supervisor say to me last night? Plant manager, without hesitation: “white paper. We dropped the ball on that one, sorry.” I didn’t tell him anything else, only that it was over. Amazing though, that our boss can admit he’s wrong, but the guy opposite me, who is new to this industry and doesn’t know shit about any machine in the plant, is incapable of ever admitting fault. Hell, I didn’t even need him to admit fault, I just needed him to say OK. But trying to turn it around on me? Noooooooo way buddy.

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Cut your half down :joy:

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Damn, dude! I’ve worked with people like that, and in my experience they don’t change, they just get more underhanded once they’ve been called out. Watch your back with this guy.

I’ve found that it works well to publicly recognize any help, support, good work you get from peers and subordinates, and to also publicly own up when you make a mistake. If people know you’ll shoot straight they know who to believe when someone pulls bullshit like that.

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This is, word for word, my mentality as a supervisor. I give a please and thank you for everything, I always give kudos for hard work at the next days shift meeting at the beginning of shift, and I have no problem just saying “sorry, that’s on me.”

But yes, this guy worries me. He’s under the gun for fuckups already, and I know he’ll do anything to avoid blame. He’s like, nearly 60 too. It’s amazing people can live that long with that attitude.

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It tells you something that he’s almost 60 and starting out inexperienced in a new industry. How many bridges has he burned to get to that point? You could give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he just wanted a life change, or lost his old job due to downsizing or something, but his actions seem to point to the more obvious conclusion.

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I miss this.

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You were on t-nation when you were 0?

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I’m nostalgic for something I’ve never had. I’m sure there’s a word for it.

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Romanticism perhaps? You raise an interesting query.

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No, I’m not gay.

But, I do believe the older version of T-Nation was much more politically incorrect and selective, which is a good thing. It seemed more homely. Almost like training in an old-timers gym vs. a state of the art one. I feel like I just missed an era in training.

Old timer gym is where I learn too lift

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I don’t get the allure of old school gyms. No air conditioning, bunch of rusted weights. PASS!

Gimme some comfort, I’m not living in the stone age.

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I got dehydrated really bad first time I competed in a gym with AC. Was hard to determine hydration needs. Weird second order effects.

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It certainly was an uglier website back then.

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But it felt more in-line with what the site represented…the acquisition of strength. The acquisition of strength in itself is ugly.

Not when I do it.

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Confession 1: Somedays I wake up just feeling strong as fuck! Today is one of those days!

Confession 2: I drank an IPA while I was working out today. No water just beer. Had no ill effect at all :smile:

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God no. I used to train at my rugby club gym. It had 2 tube lights. One blew. So I used to bring a plug in halogen light. In the winter it was so cold holding the bar hurt. My training buddy and I made so much progress there and I miss it.

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