SOCIAL workers are placing obese children on the child protection register alongside victims thought to be at risk of sexual or physical abuse.
In extreme cases children have been placed in foster care because their parents have contributed to the health problems of their offspring by failing to respond to medical advice…
I, for one, love it. It really bothers me sometimes when I see the “Blue Whale” zipping around walmart on her scooter with a cart full of chips, cookies, and soda and two obese kids in tow.
It’s one thing if a kid has a weight problem and parents are willing to work with doctors. But when the parents can’t manage their own weight, and just aren’t willing to buy healthy food and work to keep their kids healthy it seems just as bad as physically abusing them.
I’d rather see the U.S. require breeding licenses. It’s still be just as big brother, but then we could limit the number of stupid people of every type.
When only the stupid are breeding, Darwin’s theories become irrelevant.
I agree on the breeding licenses. Otherwise it just strikes me as more government interference in private life. Also means bigger government and more taxes. Big Brother is watching you.
[quote]SomethingReese wrote:
I wonder if social services in the U.S. will start doing this.[/quote]
I’ve been at Social Services here in Colorado for ten years and so far I’ve only had one kid on my caseload where it was actually court ordered into his treatment plan that he lose weight, become more active, eat healthier etc. It was also put on his mother’s treatment plan that she spend more time with him, making sure he gets out and gets active, and not eat junk food that she left for him while she went out and did who knows what. I have had many more kids on my caseload that could have benefited from some sort of healthy lifestyle plan. It’s something I wish we would do more.
[quote]Spike9726 wrote:
I agree on the breeding licenses. Otherwise it just strikes me as more government interference in private life. Also means bigger government and more taxes. Big Brother is watching you. [/quote]
How do you mean? The child doesn’t know, and the parents are too stupid or lazy to help them lose some weight. If the government (local, state, whatever) doesn’t do something, who will?
why don’t you just make people who are obese just pay more for health insurance or have a luxury tax on junk food. They do the same thing with smoking.
I for one hate goverment intervention when it comes parents kids. I think DSS is way to quick to blame parents and believe a kids story. Not saying that there isn’t a time and place, but goverment telling me what I can and can’t do with my children is BS.
I’m generally against the government interfering in the private lives of it’s citizens, the exception is when the citizens are under 18.
I think this is a great step in the right direction. These kids aren’t being taken away from their parents because they’re fat, they’re being taken away because the parents refuse to accept the help that they’ve been ordered to take for the child.
These kids didn’t ask for this and as kids they don’t know any better, nor do they have any control over what they’re fed and what comes into the house. Even if they had some control they’re children, we can’t expect them to know better.
I’m glad that a government somewhere is finally stepping in on behalf of children when the parents refuse to do their part.
This, afterall, is child abuse in no uncertain terms.
[quote]aikigreg wrote:
I’d rather see the U.S. require breeding licenses. It’s still be just as big brother, but then we could limit the number of stupid people of every type.
When only the stupid are breeding, Darwin’s theories become irrelevant.[/quote]
Has anybody here seen Idiocracy? It’s a comedy from Mike Judge (Office Space) that makes fun of the dumbing down of our society. In the movie, 500 years from now people will be so stupid they’ll water plants with sports drinks and wonder why they don’t die. I’m afraid that’s going to happen much sooner than 500 years.
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Has anybody here seen Idiocracy? It’s a comedy from Mike Judge (Office Space) that makes fun of the dumbing down of our society. In the movie, 500 years from now people will be so stupid they’ll water plants with sports drinks and wonder why they don’t die. I’m afraid that’s going to happen much sooner than 500 years.[/quote]
I think we’re already there.
For example, once during my senior year of college I was doing my laundry and two freshmen girls come into the laundry room.
They were freaking out because they couldn’t figure out how to use the machines. This would have been excusable
if it weren’t for the 3ft. by 2ft. yellow
instruction sign posted behind the machines and the instructions posted on each individual machine.
I watchesd it this weekend with my wife, and then had to defend myself for 2 days against her coming up and kicking me in the nuts! Ow my balls!
Electrolytes - it’s what plants crave!
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
aikigreg wrote:
I’d rather see the U.S. require breeding licenses. It’s still be just as big brother, but then we could limit the number of stupid people of every type.
When only the stupid are breeding, Darwin’s theories become irrelevant.
Has anybody here seen Idiocracy? It’s a comedy from Mike Judge (Office Space) that makes fun of the dumbing down of our society. In the movie, 500 years from now people will be so stupid they’ll water plants with sports drinks and wonder why they don’t die. I’m afraid that’s going to happen much sooner than 500 years.[/quote]
I have a son who’s lived with his mother (my ex) all his life. He’s now 3 y/o. When he comes to visit he begs for soda and assorted junk food. He won’t eat the oatmeal I give him unless he’s really hungry. It’s tragic and it breaks my heart. She is a fat soggy sorry-ass piece of shit, especially being that she won’t spend more than ten minutes making his food, so it’s always some kind of microwaveable shit, or junk food and juice/soda/whatever.
It’s those parents who can’t even take care of themselves that really make these dangerous decisions and build these poor habits in the children. I’ve seen more than my share and your share of fatass kids, fatter than that kid in the picture, waddling around like decrepit elderly women carrying a Super Duper Deluxe Cola with mommy who could be registered as a RV in some states.
I’d love to see a competent authority remove them from their home and place them somewhere that they can get real care, while billing the parents. Mandatory nutritional training as well as physical training for the parents should be a vital part of the process of re-education to earn back their child if they even want the child.
It’s ignorance, apathy, and selfishness.
My ex was so addicted to carbs that she tried to get Krispy Kreme to FedEx a box of donuts to Germany. No shit! Got headaches from going without salt and sugar for 12 hours, almost had a meltdown from it. It’s pretty bad. Children really should be taken from a place like that and put with a good, caring, competent family.
It also doesn’t help that many schools in the US are cutting PT programs completely out of their budgets. Or the fact that recess is now sedentary for the most part. Don’t want kids getting hurt running around playing ‘Tag’.
What sickens me most was already mentioned about the blue whales riding those scooters. The kids in tow don’t even look like kids. How in the hell does a 12 year olds’ forehead get fat? Knees bent inward? WTF! They look like pre-pubescent neanderthals.
Unless there is a hypothyroidism epidemic, it’s the parents fault and the kids should be removed.
why don’t you just make people who are obese just pay more for health insurance or have a luxury tax on junk food. They do the same thing with smoking.
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There was actually a documentary on in the UK a couple of months ago about creating a Fat Tax. The guy who made it instantly became one of my heroes, obviously.
He suggested that there be an income dependent tax levied on people who are clinically obese. This tax should be payed only once a year, thereby giving obese people a year after being taxed to rectify the problem. Otherwise they get taxed again.
Here’s a clip of a bunch of whiny university students trying to tell him what a monster he is (breaking Godwin’s Law in the process):
[quote]jarvis wrote:
five-twelve wrote:
I have an idea…
why don’t you just make people who are obese just pay more for health insurance or have a luxury tax on junk food. They do the same thing with smoking.
There was actually a documentary on in the UK a couple of months ago about creating a Fat Tax. The guy who made it instantly became one of my heroes, obviously.
He suggested that there be an income dependent tax levied on people who are clinically obese. This tax should be payed only once a year, thereby giving obese people a year after being taxed to rectify the problem. Otherwise they get taxed again.
Here’s a clip of a bunch of whiny university students trying to tell him what a monster he is (breaking Godwin’s Law in the process):
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Thanks for that link, good stuff.
It should be noted, though, that some of the students were on his side and making his points clearer to their peers, so apparently not all hope is lost.
[quote]buffalokilla wrote:
Spike9726 wrote:
I agree on the breeding licenses. Otherwise it just strikes me as more government interference in private life. Also means bigger government and more taxes. Big Brother is watching you.
How do you mean? The child doesn’t know, and the parents are too stupid or lazy to help them lose some weight. If the government (local, state, whatever) doesn’t do something, who will?
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Aside from the fact that it’s probably unconstitutional (Troxell v Granville), it’s an extremely slippery slope. I really don’t want the government in my living room telling me how to feed my kids.
How much of your freedom do you wish to give away? Some say video games are bad for you but I’ll be darned if the feds are gonna regulate my PS2. Some people think that Christianity, or religion in general is a bad influence. Would you like the government to tell you what you can teach your children?
The reality of a free society is that you may not like the choices others make.
And how much more would you like to pay in taxes? This all encompassing utopian mother figure of a government that some seem to favor is far from free.
