The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Out Now

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:
Does the arrow you use matter a lot? If you max out smiting and have a bow that hits for 99 damage plus you enchant it to hit for 24 frost damage does the difference between a glass arrow and ebony arrow even matter?

I have been wondering this for awhile…[/quote]

From a purely subjective standard yes, it does. [/quote]
That is the most abstract answer I can imagine.

I meant, is the difference in an arrow that does 10 damage and one that does 12 damage just 2 plus the perk multiplier of 80%. That’s still only 2 * 1.8 = 3.6

One arrow does 3.6 more damage after the bonus unless your looking at the 3x sneak bonus so 3.6 * 3 = 10.8 more damage I guess.

[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:
Does the arrow you use matter a lot? If you max out smiting and have a bow that hits for 99 damage plus you enchant it to hit for 24 frost damage does the difference between a glass arrow and ebony arrow even matter?

I have been wondering this for awhile…[/quote]

From a purely subjective standard yes, it does. [/quote]
That is the most abstract answer I can imagine.

I meant, is the difference in an arrow that does 10 damage and one that does 12 damage just 2 plus the perk multiplier of 80%. That’s still only 2 * 1.8 = 3.6

One arrow does 3.6 more damage after the bonus unless your looking at the 3x sneak bonus so 3.6 * 3 = 10.8 more damage I guess. [/quote]

Um, what?

Orcish or daedric arrows can do twice the damage of an iron or steel one, that does make a difference.

Then again, I have a hammer now.

My daedric bow does 236 base damage plus the arrow damage plus 31 fire damage. The arrow type does matter. a falmer arrow does 7 damage where a daedric arrow does 24. You cannot make or buy daedric arrows, you have to find them. You can make ebony arrows or buy them and they do 22 damage. I assume you add up all the damage (236+31+24 for a daedric arrow) and when used during a sneak attack (3x damage) that is 873 damage. I don’t know if poison gets the multiplier as well but I can kill a mammoth or giant with one arrow. A dagger with the appropriate sneak perk and using the gloves that gives 2x backstab damage does 30x (yes thirty) damage. I am sure you could make a daedric dagger, add some poison and do 2500 damage or more…

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]blake b wrote:
If you have enough perks in sneak and archery along with an enchanted daedric bow… you can kill a giant with one arrow. You can also load it up with poison if you don’t think one arrow will kill one. [/quote]
Does the arrow you use matter a lot? If you max out smiting and have a bow that hits for 99 damage plus you enchant it to hit for 24 frost damage does the difference between a glass arrow and ebony arrow even matter?

I have been wondering this for awhile…[/quote]

From a purely subjective standard yes, it does.

Then again, if you are really good with bows you can shoot them so fast that it hardly makes a difference whether they take 2 or 4 arrows.

Then again I am storming in right now with a war hammer, screaming some chibberish about death and honor but I was an expert archer once…[/quote]
But then you took an arrow to the knee, right?

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How dare you.

No arrow has touched my knee so far.

Then again, sometimes I do look like a porcupine , so, who knows?[/quote]

I had one of those glowing ice spear/shard things stuck in my head for half the game. Persisted through multiple armor changes and so on.

It even appeared way before I encountered any ice magic users.

Skyrim’s engine works in mysterious ways…

[quote]blake b wrote:
My daedric bow does 236 base damage[/quote]

Jesus, how many upgrades is that?

that’s a mother-fucking bow

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]blake b wrote:
My daedric bow does 236 base damage[/quote]

Jesus, how many upgrades is that?[/quote]

Smithing is 100, enchanting is 100. I disenchanted a set of gloves that enhanced smithing. I made some armor, gloves, boots, ring and necklace of smithing that all improve smithing by 25%. I used them along with blacksmith potions to get it there. It had been improved twice to legendary status. The damage includes a helmet, gloves, ring and necklace that add 40% each to bow damage along with perks in the base archery which adds damage. My one handed daedric swords do 319 each. The aforementioned items (except helmet) are double enchanted for +40% damage for one handed and bows. I made a set of boots that are +40% to both one handed and two handed weapons. After my one handed get to 100, I am switching over to a greatsword.

[quote]blake b wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]blake b wrote:
My daedric bow does 236 base damage[/quote]

Jesus, how many upgrades is that?[/quote]

Smithing is 100, enchanting is 100. I disenchanted a set of gloves that enhanced smithing. I made some armor, gloves, boots, ring and necklace of smithing that all improve smithing by 25%. I used them along with blacksmith potions to get it there. It had been improved twice to legendary status. The damage includes a helmet, gloves, ring and necklace that add 40% each to bow damage along with perks in the base archery which adds damage. My one handed daedric swords do 319 each. The aforementioned items (except helmet) are double enchanted for +40% damage for one handed and bows. I made a set of boots that are +40% to both one handed and two handed weapons. After my one handed get to 100, I am switching over to a greatsword.
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Just.damn!

Maybe base damage is wrong terminology, with all the bonuses it does 236 plus arrow plus 31 fire plus absorbs their soul if they die in 1 second. I have a crap ton of filled soul gems because of that bow. There is a way to make a +147% smithing potion as well. The one I was using was +40%. Eventually, I will have a +29% set of smithing items plus a high + percentage potion and I am going to make another set of weapons just to see how high I can get.

A glitch (?) allows you to wear a falmer helmet along with a circlet. That is another way to up your bonuses. I wouldn’t wear a falmer helmet in public, only at the forge. I’m pretty sure it is a fashion faux pas.

BWAHAHAHA

Faithful TES lover I am, I bought it on its release date, but didn’t dare to start playing it, yet (work).
Holidays are just around the corner, though. -.-

Hope there’ll be something like OOO for this (couldn’t find anything on this, yet).

[quote]FattyFat wrote:
Faithful TES lover I am, I bought it on its release date, but didn’t dare to start playing it, yet (work).
Holidays are just around the corner, though. -.-

Hope there’ll be something like OOO for this (couldn’t find anything on this, yet).
[/quote]

Hey brother, how long’s it been?

Come out to answer the greybeards’ call? Well, you’ll know what I mean soon anyway.
Spoilers and all that.

[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]red04 wrote:
The disappointing thing about sneaking to me is how useless backstab seems to be. The only enemies(even with very high sneak, 80+) I can actually get to melee range on while staying hidden are sleeping ones, even if it’s a dark room. If I’d have known it would turn out like that I’d have gone the archery route so much earlier.

Also it sucks when a ‘boss’ fight starts through a conversation or other kind of event and you never get to be hidden, basically playing as a gimped character in those situations.[/quote]
Are you wearing heavy armor?

I have my “sneak” perk tree maxed out and I slit throats all the time. Even if it doesn’t go to the scene where it shows you doing it you still get 15 times damage.

The “shadow warrior” perk has got to be my favorite perk. If you think the enemy will find you stand up and run back 10 feet then squat down again and you turn invisible for a couple seconds. I use that against every dragon/boss and they never seem to know where I am.

Also, don’t take Lydia or anyone else with you. They give your position away. Took me awhile to figure out I was more effective at taking people down one by one rather then getting splash damage from Lydia’s dumb-ass. [/quote]

No I’m wearing all Scale Armor(it says it’s light at least), I don’t have shadow warrior yet, but I do have all the way up to the running/walking don’t effect sound perk.

TBH it’s not that big a deal anyway, I think I prefer the sneak bow attacks more in most situations because there’s rarely 1 target, and using the bow allows you to stay hidden and tear through entire rooms of people.[/quote]
You have to hit the ctrl button so you’re walking when you’re sneaking. If you run/sneak they can hear you coming or something.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]JLone wrote:

[quote]blake b wrote:
If you have enough perks in sneak and archery along with an enchanted daedric bow… you can kill a giant with one arrow. You can also load it up with poison if you don’t think one arrow will kill one. [/quote]
Does the arrow you use matter a lot? If you max out smiting and have a bow that hits for 99 damage plus you enchant it to hit for 24 frost damage does the difference between a glass arrow and ebony arrow even matter?

I have been wondering this for awhile…[/quote]

From a purely subjective standard yes, it does.

Then again, if you are really good with bows you can shoot them so fast that it hardly makes a difference whether they take 2 or 4 arrows.

Then again I am storming in right now with a war hammer, screaming some chibberish about death and honor but I was an expert archer once…[/quote]
But then you took an arrow to the knee, right?

[/quote]

How dare you.

No arrow has touched my knee so far.

Then again, sometimes I do look like a porcupine , so, who knows?[/quote]

It wasn’t an arrow.

He took a wabbajack to the ass.

[quote]RSGZ wrote:

BWAHAHAHA[/quote]

THAT IS AWSOME!

[quote]redstar144 wrote:

this just made me eager to try rogue style on skyrim =)

I’ve seen some random dragons flying around mountains and so on. One even passed over me, very close. I’ve tried to shoot at them with my bow but nothing.

Are those killable at all? He didn’t attack me, just was flying around.

try shouting at them, normally that makes them come down

I’ll try that, thanks. I only have one shout available so far, need to kill dragons to get the souls to unlock the others yet.

Yesterday some thughs assaulted me. They had a contract from the innkeeper at Wildhem about killing the “thief”. I don’t remember stealing from her…so I went to her inn to see what was going on…and nothing. No hostile or anything.