And Bernie is not going to get elected to the Presidency. We did fall pretty far by electing Obama twice, but that’s America we fell for the charisma. I thank God every day that Bernie has none of that and after next year we won’t have to hear of him or see him again.
Socialism HA!
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That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far left ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some well spoken brown skinned “community organizer” to regurgitate sanders communistical message and the dumbass public will buy into it.
And Bernie is not going to get elected to the Presidency. We did fall pretty far by electing Obama twice, but that’s America we fell for the charisma. I thank God every day that Bernie has none of that and after next year we won’t have to hear of him or see him again.
Socialism HA!
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That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far left ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some well spoken brown skinned “community organizer” to regurgitate sanders communistical message and the dumbass public will buy into it. [/quote]
Something that is rarely talked about, the best looking most charismatic person is the one usually elected to the Presidency. That can work both ways.
And Bernie is not going to get elected to the Presidency. We did fall pretty far by electing Obama twice, but that’s America we fell for the charisma. I thank God every day that Bernie has none of that and after next year we won’t have to hear of him or see him again.
Socialism HA!
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That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far left ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some well spoken brown skinned “community organizer” to regurgitate sanders communistical message and the dumbass public will buy into it. [/quote]
That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far right ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some pale-skinned, loud-mouthed, egotistical “Businessman” with bad hair to regurgitate the far-rights message and the dumbass public will buy into it.
And Bernie is not going to get elected to the Presidency. We did fall pretty far by electing Obama twice, but that’s America we fell for the charisma. I thank God every day that Bernie has none of that and after next year we won’t have to hear of him or see him again.
Socialism HA!
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That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far left ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some well spoken brown skinned “community organizer” to regurgitate sanders communistical message and the dumbass public will buy into it. [/quote]
That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far right ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some pale-skinned, loud-mouthed, egotistical “Businessman” with bad hair to regurgitate the far-rights message and the dumbass public will buy into it.
(…and as they say…“fixed” that for you…)
Mufasa
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But the problem is Trump is not regurgitating the far-rights message. I’m sure you’ve heard of his inconsistencies.
But yeah he sure is a loud mouth egotistical sort isn’t he?
And Bernie is not going to get elected to the Presidency. We did fall pretty far by electing Obama twice, but that’s America we fell for the charisma. I thank God every day that Bernie has none of that and after next year we won’t have to hear of him or see him again.
Socialism HA!
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That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far left ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some well spoken brown skinned “community organizer” to regurgitate sanders communistical message and the dumbass public will buy into it. [/quote]
That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far right ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some pale-skinned, loud-mouthed, egotistical “Businessman” with bad hair to regurgitate the far-rights message and the dumbass public will buy into it.
And Bernie is not going to get elected to the Presidency. We did fall pretty far by electing Obama twice, but that’s America we fell for the charisma. I thank God every day that Bernie has none of that and after next year we won’t have to hear of him or see him again.
Socialism HA!
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That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far left ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some well spoken brown skinned “community organizer” to regurgitate sanders communistical message and the dumbass public will buy into it. [/quote]
That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far right ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some pale-skinned, loud-mouthed, egotistical “Businessman” with bad hair to regurgitate the far-rights message and the dumbass public will buy into it.
(…and as they say…“fixed” that for you…)
Mufasa
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except Trump is not that far right, but nice try.
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Agreed, Trump has openly been for single-payer healthcare, and raising taxes on the super rich. The one thing I would be worried about, is Trump pulling a bait and switch the way Arnold Schwarzenegger did. He won a recall election using his charisma and ran on Conservative principles, only to have expanded government, signing the dreaded Cap and Trade law, and caving to Union pressure. He ended up being Democrat-lite.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
lmao @ the D party now bragging about being fucking commies, and half the country is going to vote for this shit.
People are dumb, and hate freedom I guess. [/quote]
Bernie Sander and his supporters are socialists, not communists.
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Ehhh… I’d argue the vast majority would go right along with the full on commie revolution if that kook said it would net them free stuff.
The technical differences between the two are less important than in the macro, they are all anti-freedom by definition.
If person A can’t do with her property (her capital) as she pleases, she isn’t free. Neither system allows that, therefore it is anti-freedom. So either way, commie or socialist, they are totalitarian freedom hating savages that should have died out centuries ago with the old religions and governments of a darker, worse world.
Commies rolls off the tongue a lot easier than socialist.
Few people thought an actor could be elected, and Reagan still seems to be the ultimate boner material for Conservatives. What got him elected was strength and confidence, what we are seeing in Trump right now. Maybe the best politician is a non-politician. With a Congress and Judiciary, it’s not like Trump can fuck things without recourse.
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Said actor was also a governor at one point.
Just saying.
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Hah, if only Schwarzenegger was a naturally born U.S. citizen, amirite =D
Ehhh… I’d argue the vast majority would go right along with the full on commie revolution if that kook said it would net them free stuff.
The technical differences between the two are less important than in the macro, they are all anti-freedom by definition.
If person A can’t do with her property (her capital) as she pleases, she isn’t free. Neither system allows that, therefore it is anti-freedom. So either way, commie or socialist, they are totalitarian freedom hating savages that should have died out centuries ago with the old religions and governments of a darker, worse world.
Commies rolls off the tongue a lot easier than socialist.
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Ehhh… I’d argue the vast majority would go right along with the full on commie revolution if that kook said it would net them free stuff.
The technical differences between the two are less important than in the macro, they are all anti-freedom by definition.
If person A can’t do with her property (her capital) as she pleases, she isn’t free. Neither system allows that, therefore it is anti-freedom. So either way, commie or socialist, they are totalitarian freedom hating savages that should have died out centuries ago with the old religions and governments of a darker, worse world.
Commies rolls off the tongue a lot easier than socialist.
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I’ve read that you don’t like commies, but…
Oh man. You REALLY don’t like commies.
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Look, I don’t like anyone that is anti-freedom. Not in the “rule of law” sense (as long as the law is applied equally), but in the “hey, We get to decide what YOU do with YOUR stuff, and how much stuff is too much for YOU to have”.
Whether it be a commie or a capitalist, if your (proverbial) first reaction to a situation is to limit the freedoms of others, and there is no victim as a result of those actions, your not really scoring high on my likability scale.
And Bernie is not going to get elected to the Presidency. We did fall pretty far by electing Obama twice, but that’s America we fell for the charisma. I thank God every day that Bernie has none of that and after next year we won’t have to hear of him or see him again.
Socialism HA!
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That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far left ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some well spoken brown skinned “community organizer” to regurgitate sanders communistical message and the dumbass public will buy into it. [/quote]
That’s the problem, it’s a test run for the far right ideology. All they’ll need to do is find some pale-skinned, loud-mouthed, egotistical “Businessman” with bad hair to regurgitate the far-rights message and the dumbass public will buy into it.
(…and as they say…“fixed” that for you…)
Mufasa
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except Trump is not that far right, but nice try.
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Agreed, Trump has openly been for single-payer healthcare, and raising taxes on the super rich. The one thing I would be worried about, is Trump pulling a bait and switch the way Arnold Schwarzenegger did. He won a recall election using his charisma and ran on Conservative principles, only to have expanded government, signing the dreaded Cap and Trade law, and caving to Union pressure. He ended up being Democrat-lite. [/quote]
Ehhh… I’d argue the vast majority would go right along with the full on commie revolution if that kook said it would net them free stuff.
The technical differences between the two are less important than in the macro, they are all anti-freedom by definition.
If person A can’t do with her property (her capital) as she pleases, she isn’t free. Neither system allows that, therefore it is anti-freedom. So either way, commie or socialist, they are totalitarian freedom hating savages that should have died out centuries ago with the old religions and governments of a darker, worse world.
Commies rolls off the tongue a lot easier than socialist.
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I’ve read that you don’t like commies, but…
Oh man. You REALLY don’t like commies.
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Why would anyone like the idea of losing their freedom, money and possessions?
Why would anyone like the idea of losing their freedom, money and possessions? [/quote]
A quick drive by of any that ‘leaders’ espousing such for their constituents, do not abide by the same restrictions.
See the earliest Pharaohs to the current ones for reference.
Not responding to you specifically Zeb
Look, I don’t like anyone that is anti-freedom. Not in the “rule of law” sense (as long as the law is applied equally), but in the “hey, We get to decide what YOU do with YOUR stuff, and how much stuff is too much for YOU to have”. [/quote]
Then how can you possibly like anyone?
There’s good reasons to dislike everyone alive if your stated rule is “I don’t like anyone that is anti-freedom”.
Unless you don’t actually mean “anti-freedom” in a blanket fashion, but rather as “anti-whatever you (Countingbeans) determine to be important for YOUR (Countingbeans) freedom”.
There’s good reasons to dislike everyone alive if your stated rule is “I don’t like anyone that is anti-freedom”.[/quote]
For example?
[quote]Unless you don’t actually mean “anti-freedom” in a blanket fashion, but rather as “anti-whatever you (Countingbeans) determine to be important for YOUR (Countingbeans) freedom”.
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I think you’re projecting a little bit. I’m not sure you’ll find me being very inconsistent on this issue. Maybe, but I’d be surprised.
There’s good reasons to dislike everyone alive if your stated rule is “I don’t like anyone that is anti-freedom”.[/quote]
For example?[/quote]
I’m pretty sure that you’re asking to be lectured to about how ownership, private property, and prohibiting one from killing and/or stealing from others are concepts that are just as “anti-freedom” as forced socialism. This course is called: How The Concept That My Freedom To Swing My Fist Ends Where Your Nose Begins Is Exactly The Same As The Concept That My Freedom To Swing My Fist Ends When The Thought Of Doing So Enters My Head.
I’m pretty sure that you’re asking to be lectured to about how ownership, private property, and prohibiting one from killing and/or stealing from others are concepts that are just as “anti-freedom” as forced socialism. This course is called: How The Concept That My Freedom To Swing My Fist Ends Where Your Nose Begins Is Exactly The Same As The Concept That My Freedom To Swing My Fist Ends When The Thought Of Doing So Enters My Head.[/quote]
Well, yes. In fact, I’m sure some libertarians will argue in that fashion.
Sadly, I am not a libertarian.
[quote]Countingbeans wrote:
I think you’re projecting a little bit. I’m not sure you’ll find me being very inconsistent on this issue. Maybe, but I’d be surprised.[/quote]
I’m not projecting; I’m just being super honest about how I felt about that post (yes, this is meant to be a reference to some other thread somewhere).
In any case, afaik your intense dislike towards commies don’t match up with your dislike towards folks who are against gay marriage.
I’m pretty sure that you’re asking to be lectured to about how ownership, private property, and prohibiting one from killing and/or stealing from others are concepts that are just as “anti-freedom” as forced socialism. This course is called: How The Concept That My Freedom To Swing My Fist Ends Where Your Nose Begins Is Exactly The Same As The Concept That My Freedom To Swing My Fist Ends When The Thought Of Doing So Enters My Head.[/quote]
Well, yes. In fact, I’m sure some libertarians will argue in that fashion.
Sadly, I am not a libertarian.
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Perhaps, but I don’t know who those libertarians would be and have never heard of any. True anarchists may oppose those things, but no libertarians, as far as I know, do. Anarcho-capitalism is quite different from pure anarchism.