[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Why did you even come into this thread? This place is riddled with Spoilers and little “Spoiler Alerts”.[/quote]
I skip past most of the threads. You can tell in the first sentences whether or not there’ll be a spoiler.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Why did you even come into this thread? This place is riddled with Spoilers and little “Spoiler Alerts”.
I skip past most of the threads. You can tell in the first sentences whether or not there’ll be a spoiler.[/quote]
There are a lot of posts in here that have spoilers and don’t have the spoiler alerts involved. We gave up on that shit on page 4. I’m sorry, Mak.
[quote]cobbsdad wrote:
Lonnie123 wrote:
Also, Has anyone else ever heard of “Game Theory”, AKA “The Prisoners Dilemma” ?? I thought that was so cool that they incorporated that idea into the movie via the ferries.
I too thought the incorporation of the game theory was interesting. It’s a goog thing neither ships understood the “Nash Equilibruim”.
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It reminded me of “Friend or Foe” on GSN, with a little more at stake.
I actually think Maggie Gyllenhal is cute. Not hot, but still attractive. Like a girl you could definitely run into on the street.
The Game Theory thing was definitely cool. I was hoping I wasn’t the only one to recognize it.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
I actually think Maggie Gyllenhal is cute. Not hot, but still attractive. Like a girl you could definitely run into on the street.[/quote]
Her brother watched Secretary I heard.
The whole “cell phone sonar,” “hey look I’m Daredevil” thing was retarded. I would have rather Batman use his “I’m the greatest detective that ever lived” powers to find the joker, and his “I’m the greatest ninja that ever lived” powers to fight people in the dark, not his “I can afford deus ex machina because I buy them wholesale” powers.
And I think this movie would have been a great set-up for a Two-Face-starring Batman III.
Pretty much everything else in the movie was amazing.
As to villains for the next film:
Catwoman has to make an appearance, but she isn’t dangerous enough to be the main antagonist. You can’t really go from “I’m going to watch the world burn” to “I’m going to steal that pretty necklace” when your theme is “escalation.”
I think the Prey storyline might be a good fit for the next film. They’ve already introduced the “Cops v. Batman” theme, as well as the idea of other vigilantes running around Gotham. Plus, more ninja. Hugo Strange would be a great fit for the Nolan-verse.
I would love to see an Azrael movie, but I don’t think they can do it in one film.
Same story with Bane. He would have had to have been pulling the strings from the first film to give him the kind of gravitas he needs. Plus, if you’re going to do Bane, you have to do at least something like the Knightfall, Knightquest, Knight’s End thing, and there’s no way that’s fitting into one movie.
The Riddler, to be a credible threat, would have to be the Joker-lite, and that would suck.
If they even hint of bringing Robin into this whole thing, I will personally board a plane, fly to Hollywood, buy a Map to the Stars, and punch Christopher Nolan in the nuts.
And Maggie Gyllenhal is cute. All the haters can shut right up.
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Hold on. I disagree that it was ‘so good’ that we can ‘only nitpick about Batman’s voice.’ It was a very good film, but not impeccable.
The writing was a tad sloppy when Joker told Batman the two addresses where Dent and Rachel were at.
See, Joker never says which of the two is at what address. He just mouths off two addresses. How does Batman know which one Rachel is at? Because, it is very clear that he would have saved Rachel first.
Someone suggested that Joker was able to foresee Batman going for Rachel instead of Dent, and mislead Batman into thinking Rachel was at Dent’s address, but if that is what the writers intended it was VERY sloppy.[/quote]
I think you need to go watch it again, Joker dose infact say that “Ms. Dowse is at 255…and Dent is at…” and is it really that hard to guess witch one he would go after?
[quote]PonceDeLeon wrote:
Again, I thought Heath Ledger’s performance was better than the film itself. That was a wicked portrayal of a villain. My friend said he could tell in some of the scenes that Joker was being played by someone else, because Ledger died DURING the filming, but I did not notice.[/quote]
Your friend is an idiot b/c Leager died in Jan of '08 and the film was done shooting in Sep '07. I hate when ppl try to sound smarter than they really are by making shit up. He was filming The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus when he died.
I can see Catwoman being introduced as a side character, and then fleshing her out in later movies.
Just a thought.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
PonceDeLeon wrote:
I actually think Maggie Gyllenhal is cute. Not hot, but still attractive. Like a girl you could definitely run into on the street.
Her brother watched Secretary I heard.[/quote]
Her brother also sodomized the joker.
[quote]thomas.galvin wrote:
If they even hint of bringing Robin into this whole thing, I will personally board a plane, fly to Hollywood, buy a Map to the Stars, and punch Christopher Nolan in the nuts.
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I would like to see that, lets keep our fingers crossed
[quote]Himora22 wrote:
PonceDeLeon wrote:
Hold on. I disagree that it was ‘so good’ that we can ‘only nitpick about Batman’s voice.’ It was a very good film, but not impeccable.
The writing was a tad sloppy when Joker told Batman the two addresses where Dent and Rachel were at.
See, Joker never says which of the two is at what address. He just mouths off two addresses. How does Batman know which one Rachel is at? Because, it is very clear that he would have saved Rachel first.
Someone suggested that Joker was able to foresee Batman going for Rachel instead of Dent, and mislead Batman into thinking Rachel was at Dent’s address, but if that is what the writers intended it was VERY sloppy.
I think you need to go watch it again, Joker dose infact say that “Ms. Dowse is at 255…and Dent is at…” and is it really that hard to guess witch one he would go after?
PonceDeLeon wrote:
Again, I thought Heath Ledger’s performance was better than the film itself. That was a wicked portrayal of a villain. My friend said he could tell in some of the scenes that Joker was being played by someone else, because Ledger died DURING the filming, but I did not notice.
Your friend is an idiot b/c Leager died in Jan of '08 and the film was done shooting in Sep '07. I hate when ppl try to sound smarted than they really are by making shit up. He was filming The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus when he died.[/quote]
Psst…Himora…you spelled “smarter” incorrectly. Might want to change it before anyone notices. Whisper, whisper.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
InsanoFlex wrote:
If I may tie in the History Channel to the discussion of possible upcoming villains…
In Batman Unmasked they discuss the inspirations & psychological underpinnings of Batman & his rouges gallery. They spend a lot of time on Two-Face (dissociative disorder), Scarecrow (sadist), The Riddler (narcissist), Catwoman & The Joker (psychopath). 3 of those have already appeared in Nolan’s movies. Meanwhile, The Penguin gets 1 throw-away line about bureaucracy run amok.
Considering that 1. Obviously, The History Channel worked closely with the filmmakers & 2. I have heard that Chris Nolan explicitly ruled out The Penguin as too cartoony. Are they giving us a hint?
They didn’t classify Catwoman as a pyschopath. That was reserved for Joker.[/quote]
My apologies. I mentioned the psychoses only because I thought it was cool how they identified each one for each villain - for those who didn’t see Unmasked. I should’ve stated that they said Catwoman was the only rogue to be, “in full control of her faculties.” I think her moral ambivalence could play well against Batman’s strict code.
Anyway, my main point was that 3 of the 5 villains they spent time on have already appeared in Nolan’s films, while the 1 they barely acknowledged, Nolan has explicitly ruled out. Can we infer that the other 2 on whom they went into detail are yet to come?
Contrary to the coyness of David Goyer & the Nolan brothers in the interviews I have seen or read, I believe they had the multi-film story arc in mind when they started Begins, so they have an idea of who they will use & where they will take them.
Also, in “The Killing Joke”, joker makes it quite clear that the things he does are to show people that the difference between normal and being insane is simply having one bad day… Just like he had.
He does some fucked up shit to Gordon in that book, that would have made for some crazy ass cinema.
[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Psst…Himora…you spelled “smarter” incorrectly. Might want to change it before anyone notices. Whisper, whisper.[/quote]
No its ok b/c Im making it up as I go. Any way, its just a typo his friend is still and idiot
[quote]Himora22 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Psst…Himora…you spelled “smarter” incorrectly. Might want to change it before anyone notices. Whisper, whisper.
No its ok b/c Im making it up as I go. Any way, its just a typo his friend is still and idiot[/quote]
Calm down, dude. He’s not an idiot, just misinformed. He had ‘heard’ somewhere that Ledger died before TDK was finished. I could’ve sworn that wasn’t the case. One of us had to be wrong, and I am usually very perceptive so I think I would’ve caught a different actor playing Joker.
I’ll be watching it again in IMAX next weekend.
MAJOR SPOILER (does anyone still care?)
Question: In the scene where the assassination of the Mayor is attempted, I could have sworn I saw the Joker, sans-makeup, disguised as one of the Police Officers, and I actually thought he was the one who fired the shot.
Did I see that incorrectly? If I did see that correctly, then what was the mental headcase Joker-crony kid who got tackled, and then kidnapped by Dent, doing there?
I’ll be sure to take a closer look when I see it again in the IMAX on Sunday. The only showing that wasn’t sold out was 9am, so guess who’s waking up at 6:30am to go to a movie? What has become of me…
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
MAJOR SPOILER (does anyone still care?)
Question: In the scene where the assassination of the Mayor is attempted, I could have sworn I saw the Joker, sans-makeup, disguised as one of the Police Officers, and I actually thought he was the one who fired the shot.
Did I see that incorrectly? If I did see that correctly, then what was the mental headcase Joker-crony kid who got tackled, and then kidnapped by Dent, doing there?
I’ll be sure to take a closer look when I see it again in the IMAX on Sunday. The only showing that wasn’t sold out was 9am, so guess who’s waking up at 6:30am to go to a movie? What has become of me…[/quote]
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[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
MAJOR SPOILER (does anyone still care?)
Question: In the scene where the assassination of the Mayor is attempted, I could have sworn I saw the Joker, sans-makeup, disguised as one of the Police Officers, and I actually thought he was the one who fired the shot.
Did I see that incorrectly? If I did see that correctly, then what was the mental headcase Joker-crony kid who got tackled, and then kidnapped by Dent, doing there?
I’ll be sure to take a closer look when I see it again in the IMAX on Sunday. The only showing that wasn’t sold out was 9am, so guess who’s waking up at 6:30am to go to a movie? What has become of me…[/quote]
It was the Joker sans-makeup, and he did take the shot. I’m pretty sure the other dude was there to be the fall guy while the Joker made his escape.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
MAJOR SPOILER (does anyone still care?)
Question: In the scene where the assassination of the Mayor is attempted, I could have sworn I saw the Joker, sans-makeup, disguised as one of the Police Officers, and I actually thought he was the one who fired the shot.
Did I see that incorrectly? If I did see that correctly, then what was the mental headcase Joker-crony kid who got tackled, and then kidnapped by Dent, doing there?
I’ll be sure to take a closer look when I see it again in the IMAX on Sunday. The only showing that wasn’t sold out was 9am, so guess who’s waking up at 6:30am to go to a movie? What has become of me…
It was the Joker sans-makeup, and he did take the shot. I’m pretty sure the other dude was there to be the fall guy while the Joker made his escape.[/quote]
I love how Kev took the time to put “Spoiler Alert” in vertical lettering and then White Flash says “fuck it” and tells you with no warning.
This thread is great. Unless you haven’t seen the movie. Then this thread just sucks.
So how did the Joker get those scars anyway?