Sorry about the typos, its my Bday and I’m buzzed as hell.
i dont think all this “god will look after you” stuff is too helpful. I hate when people preach religion when people hit a rough spot in life.
[quote]Split wrote:
i dont think all this “god will look after you” stuff is too helpful. I hate when people preach religion when people hit a rough spot in life.[/quote]
It’s just what people who believe in God do, they remind each other of the strength that comes from faith. I guess you could see it as “preaching”, sometimes it can be uplifting for a person in distress, and if not, well, it didn’t cause any harm now, did it?
There’s no reason to hate it, just take it, or leave it.
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[quote]duke wrote:
Split wrote:
i dont think all this “god will look after you” stuff is too helpful. I hate when people preach religion when people hit a rough spot in life.
It’s just what people who believe in God do, they remind each other of the strength that comes from faith. I guess you could see it as “preaching”, sometimes it can be uplifting for a person in distress, and if not, well, it didn’t cause any harm now, did it?
There’s no reason to hate it, just take it, or leave it.
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Lets not go down that route.
Having faith can be a great big comfort blanket for many.
It just dont pay the bills or help with anything at all.
“keeping the faith” could even be as bad as self dillusion.
anyway Nae, you got my PM, if there is anything else, PM me and i will see what i can dig up.
I have been thinking about this one and I am still in the solutions finding mode. Heres one crazy` idea.
(DISCLAIMER: I`m still in the brainstorming mode.)
A SaveKaryn.com clone.
At first view, I do not expect this one to be very popular on T-Nation. However, the following text changed my perception:
Many people agree with her contention that her efforts could be more closely compared to a street performer than a panhandler, as her regular candid, and often humorous, writings on her site (continued in her book) provided an entertainment value that was unmatched by other solicitation sites.
Source: Save Karyn - Wikipedia
You are a charismatic person, Nate. Maybe you could pull it off. Hey, you never know.
Im still putting myself in your shoes and brainstorming for solutions. Ill keep you informed of other suggestions as they come.
Sorrry Nate, I was addressing the first part at Stace’s post before mine.
Anytime Nate. Brainstorming as we speak.
I apologize if my problems seem trivial to some of you. Considering that there are far more people worse off than I, they are. If this doesn’t sit right with you, please don’t offer me any assistance. But don’t tell me what is good for me or not if you don’t know me or know what I’m going through.
I haven’t begged for financial support at any point. And I plan on paying back everyone that has helped me. It may take me a while, but I will pay it all back.
My faith in God has done so much for me as a person in the last few months. I have more purpose and direction in my life. The support I’ve received from other Christians has been remarkable. However, that doesn’t mean I’m going to sit back, pray and hope that my prayers are answered without actually doing anything.
As I’ve stated in other threads (Credit Card Debt), I have worked my butt off to get to where I am now. I’m actually very close to getting back on my feet (despite several setbacks recently and in the last few months).
My debts are much less than most people because I have worked so hard to pay them off. I’ve used 0% interest credit cards for the past 2 1/2 years. I have maintained (and recently increased) my credit score since I have always paid more than the minimum and never had a late payment.
I found a new, better job, I’ve given away my dog, I’ve sold my car (and took a $1,200 loss), I’ve sold stereo equipment and training-related stuff, I’ve lived at home (a blessing and a curse), and I’ve been educating myself in many ways so I will never be in this situation again.
As for moving out, I may not be moving out anytime soon. As much as I want to (the stress is unbearable at times), I have realized that my father doesn’t have much time left. He’s no longer eating or drinking. He stays in bed because he’s too tired and weak to get up. He gets dizzy spells when he does get up, and his joints hurt, so he doesn’t like to move around. He’s gone from 212lbs when he was first diagnosed with cancer in February 2005 to less than 125lbs now.
His wife (my stepmom) is working part-time now (she wasn’t working prior to this so she could spend time with my dad), and they are both on his COBRA policy ($800+ per month). They need my help to pay the bills. And when my father passes, she won’t be able to afford the house and all the bills by herself. So I may end up staying there longer than I had planned to help her as well.
Everything is up in the air because we have no idea what’s going to happen. But we are preparing for everything the best we can.
ThatGirl77 commented that I may not need food, shelter or clothing, but that I need mental relief. That is probably one of the biggest things I can use. There is no stress relief for me. Yes, moving out would help tremendously, but as I stated above, that may not be possible because of what is going on. I’m not trying to be selfish by getting my own place. I want to be there for my dad. But I also need to take care of myself and my future with Stacey.
Hi Nate,
It may not be worth the pixels it’s written on, but I can relate to the state of mind. It seems like everything is in a state of flux and there are no sure things.
Thats when I get on a bike and start cranking. Thats my form of meditation and prayer. Once I hit a good stride it’s like the body disappears. Once that is gone, there is nothing left but thought. Thats when I start praying. I ask God to help me see clearly what is important in life and what is not. Once I’ve recieved a little clarity, it’s time to meditate on how to bring these things to fruition, or even whether to act at all.
Sometimes I should, sometimes patience and tollerance are the road to take. Sometimes, I don’t like the
product of these little excursions.
Any way you slice it though, it feels good to know that I’ve done something to try to ammend my mind, body and spirit. No matter what happens, I end up with a good sense of purpose, and a renewed vigor towards a prety relentless life.
I can’t say whether or not this is entirely for you, and could help your circumstance, but it could be worth a shot.
Cheezy pun- It keeps the gears turning in the right direction.
Take care,
Pete
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Hi Nate,
It may not be worth the pixels it’s written on, but I can relate to the state of mind. It seems like everything is in a state of flux and there are no sure things.
Thats when I get on a bike and start cranking. Thats my form of meditation and prayer. Once I hit a good stride it’s like the body disappears. Once that is gone, there is nothing left but thought. Thats when I start praying. I ask God to help me see clearly what is important in life and what is not. Once I’ve recieved a little clarity, it’s time to meditate on how to bring these things to fruition, or even whether to act at all.
Sometimes I should, sometimes patience and tollerance are the road to take. Sometimes, I don’t like the
product of these little excursions.
Any way you slice it though, it feels good to know that I’ve done something to try to ammend my mind, body and spirit. No matter what happens, I end up with a good sense of purpose, and a renewed vigor towards a prety relentless life.
I can’t say whether or not this is entirely for you, and could help your circumstance, but it could be worth a shot.
Cheezy pun- It keeps the gears turning in the right direction.
Take care,
Pete
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Nice! I hope he considers your advice heavily. I used to feel the same way about running or playing the piano when I was in highschool. Maybe Nate can find his own “retreat.”
Nate,
My mother is currently dying of cancer (ovarian) so I can honestly say I know what you’re going through and you have nothing but my respect for everything your’e doing for your father.
I’m also living at home with my parents helping to take care of my mother (my father is still alive and quite healthy) as my father isn’t emotionally capable of handling everything by himself. . . of course I’m not trying to detract from him as I don’t know that I would be either.
My girlfriend is increadibly understanding about the whole situation and has been nothing but supportive and helpful throughout all of this.
If you’d like to talk feel free to get a hold of me, it might be good for both of us.
I’d also like to contribute to your cause, while I can’t spare a tremendous amount as I’m helping to cover medical expenses for my mother’s treatment I’m sure anything is welcome.
All the best,
Stu
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Thats when I get on a bike and start cranking. Thats my form of meditation and prayer. Once I hit a good stride it’s like the body disappears. Once that is gone, there is nothing left but thought. Thats when I start praying. I ask God to help me see clearly what is important in life and what is not. Once I’ve recieved a little clarity, it’s time to meditate on how to bring these things to fruition, or even whether to act at all.
Pete
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I hear you Pete. I used to do this with my RT workouts when I trained alone. I was so focused that I could block out everyone and everything around me. Because I train with Stacey and friends, I don’t have that same time to be focused without interruption (a good and bad thing). However, I do need to find something else where I can start “cranking” and have that time.
Thanks man!
[quote]Sturat wrote:
Nate,
My mother is currently dying of cancer (ovarian) so I can honestly say I know what you’re going through and you have nothing but my respect for everything your’e doing for your father.
I’m also living at home with my parents helping to take care of my mother (my father is still alive and quite healthy) as my father isn’t emotionally capable of handling everything by himself. . . of course I’m not trying to detract from him as I don’t know that I would be either.
My girlfriend is increadibly understanding about the whole situation and has been nothing but supportive and helpful throughout all of this.
If you’d like to talk feel free to get a hold of me, it might be good for both of us.
I’d also like to contribute to your cause, while I can’t spare a tremendous amount as I’m helping to cover medical expenses for my mother’s treatment I’m sure anything is welcome.
All the best,
Stu[/quote]
I PM’d you man! We definitely need to talk. I know exactly what you’re going through as well.
Still driving that expensive car that you used to post pictures of?
[quote]Daox wrote:
Still driving that expensive car that you used to post pictures of? [/quote]
Have you not read the thread? It’s been stated several times that I sold the car (in February), took a $1,200 dollar loss (had to put it on my credit card) and bought a smaller, cheaper car that I used my line of credit to purchase for $6,900. My car payments went from $400+ per month to under $200, and my insurance and gas costs decreased as well. I recently was able to transfer that loan (11% interest) to a 0% interest credit card to help save me money so I can try and pay it off quicker.
Anymore questions?
Like I said, I’m doing everything possible to cut my cost of living down while being able to pay more than the minimum on my debts and keep my credit intact.
I want to thank everyone that has sent me words of encouragment and financial support. I am truly grateful. I will pay everyone back when I am better off.
Also, I wanted to give an update on my dad. As of Friday, he was admitted to the hospital due to him vomiting blood, having an accelerated heart rate (160bpm) and not feeling well. They are running all sorts of tests on him (heart and GI - he has bowel cancer along with lung and bone). They are also giving him some blood and electrolytes. His heart rate is up because of the fact that he can’t eat enough or get enough nutrients to keep his Potassium and Sodium up.
The doctors informed us that everything they are doing is only a Band-aid for his problems. The next time he gets like this, it will most likely be the last, as his heart will most likely fail. So it could be a matter of days or weeks.
We’re hoping he’ll be released today so we can take him home and keep him comfortable. When he was ill yesterday morning before I headed to work, I had a feeling that his time was coming to an end. I knew that he had been holding on lately only because he hasn’t had his peace and he wasn’t ready. His parents were also flying down yesterday, and I think he was holding on long enough for them to be here.
I’ll keep you posted. 
Gee whiz. What a heavy thread.
I would hate to be in your shoes Nate.
Not because of the problems with your father (I lost mine in similar circumstances years ago) but because of your inability to deal with the situation on your own merits.
It’s your father who needs support during this difficulr period in his life and not you.
You are a healthy young man and should be able to handle any financial problems on your own.
For God’s sake man…your father is dying and you are crying about financial difficulties. Pathetic.
I don’t care how much flack I get from the rest of the T-Nation members. You are everything that is wrong with America these days. I abhore your pathetic attempt for charity.
You are young.
You are healthy.
You have a job.
You have a roof over your head.
You have a woman who loves you.
You have a future.
It’s people like you who lead me to believe that the world is definately coming to an end.
How dare you ask for charity?
Have you no honour?
I call them as I see them.
You are wrong.
get with it boy. Don’t be a fucking sap.
We all have our problems and most of them are probably worse than yours.
What if? What if you decided to become a man?
Over and out.
Oh and Stacey…do you really want to be with a guy who solves his problems by begging for money?
It makes me sick.
Sorry for the truth.
Nate Dogg, I know this is tough for you. I lost my dad 2 months before I went to serve some time in the joint. Not easy believe me. I pray that your situation goes as well as it can. Keep up and keep strong.
Nate, I am going to be praying for you and your dad around the clock.