How many here are against cancel culture? It seems not very many.
Oh, I definitely think she should be fired. I actually think both she and whoever she reports to (assuming thats not direct to CEO) should be fired, as this would be a better political move on their part, plus the person she reports to has accountability too.
Having had a few hours to think on it more, there is one additional solution that (if Bud Light were really quick on their feet) they could’ve attempted to calm this storm.
That is to open up the capability to the public to personalize their own cans (though a website upload & ecomm solution) and have the cans mailed to them. $10 a can, and make it a open promotion. It would quickly take the significance out of the fact the trans person received the personalized can, as it commoditizes it. This would generate a bunch of press & a program that Bud Light can lean into and drive promotion through (while social media gets inundated with a bunch of people receiving their own personalized cans and then doing whatever stupid shit they do on tiktok these days.).
Of course, big companies can’t usually act that quickly, and I would be surprised if the methodology to custom brand cans and deliver our is scaled to a positon to implement a program like that. They’d also have to put heavy content moderation controls on to stop the obvious trolling risk that would come with it. Nonetheless, it would be a creative way to build themselves out of the mess
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That depends on what “cancel culture” even means.
I don’t think you should actively try and destroy someone’s life because they hold different opinions than you. However, not buying something from a company that decided to venture into political/cultural discussions to me is an entirely different matter.
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I am fine with it TBH. If I don’t agree with a company’s policies / politics, I won’t support them. There are only a few companies on my list (Metal powerlifting gear comes to mind).
I just thought it odd that IRL, a few people I know (and probably some here) that are against cancel culture are cancelling AB. The terminology is different, but when it comes to companies boycott = cancel, especially if one advocates for others to stop supporting the company.
Go back and watch Cronkite. He was a commie.
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Utter nonsense.
Cancel culture is when someone expresses an opinion on a public forum that a political faction find objectionable, so they seek to destroy that person’s livelyhood.
In this case, I am calling for the firing of a Marketing executive who made an disastrous marketing decision, and then followed it up with idiotic and dishonest justifications. She fucked up royally at her job, and the cost of revenue to her employer has to be in the millions at this point.
If you can’t tell the difference I can’t help you.
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I was talking about AB, not the marketing executive. Many seem to be cancelling AB.
Not boycotting because I quit drinking. I would though if I did still imbibe.
Hey isn’t beer estrogenic? Why would you drink that stuff anyway? Look what it did to Dylan.
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I don’t agree. Things like doxxing, informing your employer of your speech or activities, even calling for you to be harmed, etc… are deeply personal and require some pretty absurd behavior, like digital or even real life stalking, for the sole purpose of mercilessly destroying the target over, in most cases, an opinion. Swatting has become a very common form of cancellation and luckily, at least to my knowledge, hasn’t cost someone their life.
Boycotting is harming a company’s bottom line to prove a point / force change. Generally, individuals aren’t targeted; although, some could be financially harmed through lay-offs or stock decline.
I don’t see those as that similar things.
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I won’t pretend to understand the terminology of today, but IMO, a “boycott” is a boycott not aimed to eliminate a person. I thought “cancel” is a personal thing meant to punish an individual.
Maybe this culture has past me by. I do know that the Left decides what these words mean, and it is my fault for not knowing their meaning. My wife owns some nice gay apparel. (Look it up in a Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary.)
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We perhaps have different definitions of the term. I’d say what you’re describing is certainly cancel, and a worse version of it.
I think it’s fairly common from what I’ve seen that people would call things like the boycotts for companies like AB, Chic-fil-a, Coca Cola as cancelling those brands especially if one tells others to boycott those brands.
Just my opinion here, but doing it to a person for their beliefs / statements is worse than a company if the beliefs / statements are similar.
See above. I agree it’s worse when done to a person, but still think many would call it cancelling when done to a company.
I know the Christmas song haha.
I suppose the terms could be used synonymously. I just don’t think they should be due to the distinct differences between a legal entity / brand and an individual.
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Keep in mind, that this discussion is in regards to AB a U.S. company.
https://www.fincen.gov/who-united-states-person
BTW, I am just trolling with that lol. I get your point, and do agree it is worse when done to an actual individual. My only point is I’ve heard in common speech things like “X company is getting cancelled”. In that context it means the same things as boycott. When done to an individual boycott doesn’t equal cancel.
Shouldn’t that be left to those who employ her? Demanding someone lose their job is cancel culture.
So if you were running AB, what would your solution be?
I feel you, even though I’m only 60.
Cancelled(?):
Flintstones. Meet the Flintstones.
They’re the modern stone age family.
From the town of Bedrock,
They’re a page right out of history.
Let’s ride with the family down the street.
Through the courtesy of Fred’s two feet.
When you’re with the Flintstones
Have a yabba dabba doo time.
A dabba doo time.
We’ll have a gay old time
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I wouldn’t base hiring or firing decisions on what other people feel. I might as well let random people on Twitter run my business.
I wouldn’t either. I would fire people based on the business decisions they made, for example, thumbing their nose at the customers in order to virtue signal, then lying about it.
Louis CK was cancelled. If he were boycotted people would have just stopped going to his shows. Seems like a good example of the difference.
I’m aware he’s back doing comedy, but he’s not and will never be as big as he was.
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