Thought the joke was obvious.
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To be fair, he totally got you with the “least votes” part.
You’re just playing the wrong D chess
For sure
The Irish election serves as a good reminder that you can do pretty well on the foreign policy front, but the electorate will kill you if you mess up on the domestic side.
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“It’s the economy stupid”
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We need an update from the frontlines.
You dirty bastard redcoat.
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He has an advantage over you,: he’s single so he has more time to play with his D.
Dunno what to tell you, at present. Negotiations for both an Irish government and Brexit are being swallowed up by the Chop Fluey.
The British negotiator, David Frost, seems to be indicating that the U.K. wants a Canadian style deal or, failing that, we walk away from the table.
As for the Irish government? It’s engaged in the proud European tradition of not having one, and the current Taoiseach stays where he is until someone can cobble together a coalition from that mess of an election.
Meanwhile my alma mater has a confirmed case of Corona, and Italy is looking like a total basket case. Their economy was already not exactly roaring, this is gonna be a bloodbath, IMO.
I expect QE spigots to be twisted to 11, and for several EU economies to enter recession in fairly short order.
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@Legalsteel
Even figuring covid into the numbers, could Remainers be helping a downward fall to give a plausible reason to just stay in EU? Conspiratorial, l know.
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Possibly if there was some treasury clerk moving decimal places. But overall no, the remainer Brits are just more likely to amplify any pro-Brussels side of any story on any day ending in Y.
If the Tories backtrack on Brexit, they’re finished as a party, and the cleverer parts of the party know that.
Edit: as to the other portion of your question, the numbers are dire. 8-10% unemployed, the largest borrowing spree since WW2 and a 10% drop in annualised GDP. I’m sure some lunatic redoubt of remain ultras will put Brexit in the equation, but they’ll be missing the woods for the trees.
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Not to be a Debbie downer, but this is 1/5 (approx) of the U.K. GDP as borrowing for the coming year. That is FUBAR.
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Being 220 years removed from the motherland and avid follower of British programming do not give me much practical knowledge.
But it would seem that Tories would represent the old money interest that would prefer UK out of EU to keep dilution of their power by far away policy makers. I get old money also being NWOs, but EU presents a 2 front war for power.
Probably too many assumptions on my part, and l know the saying about assume.
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Adding the 2 edge sword of compound interest being owed rather than received, to social obligations = nature gonna demand a reckoning eventually.
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Quite the opposite, actually. Before 2016, the Tories were the most consistently europhilic party, in deeds if not words.
That’s changed now to keep them electable, but the decision to join was made under a Tory government. It’s all a complicated story, to be honest.
Labour changed to a pro-EU stance under Blair when Labour decided that the EU was the best mechanism of checking Tory party marketism. Hilariously, the Tories claimed that the EU was the best mechanism to prevent Labour excesses also. Imagine that calculus, ‘we will join and preserve our membership of the EU to make sure that there are some things our opponents cannot do, no matter how decisively they win an election.’
That is an excellent pro-EU argument that you’ve just outlined, probably unintentionally - it reins in excesses from both the extreme right and the extreme left.
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It was definitely a strange situation where both Corbyn and Johnson agreed on the same thing. Corbyn died on brexit, I think, and his lack of leadership, culminating in stopping labor voting on a second referendum. Either be one way or the other but having a whole party not vote showed, I think, a lack of leadership. It was a cop out. There’s some local language
Labor party came to our house the morning of that vote, never been before or after.
Old school labor is anti Europe
Do you think your viewpoint is informed by being a province of the Hapsburg (maybe even jr partner of the Austria/Hungary era)? Or has that been erased under the thumb of Tito/USSR?
My point - UK has a long history of running things world wide and would not naturally fall under someone else calling the shots.
Balkans are small and in a continental crossroads with hostile neighbors.Thus, looking to join others in the same circumstance.
Maybe my thoughts are off base. I read 49% of Gen Z has a favorable opinion of socialism.
Unimaginable to a person drilled to hate ‘isms’ with all of the fervor you were exposed to in the commie youth, against the West.
A big part of brexit voting wasn’t so much left v right, but more old v young.
I know several retired left voters who voted to leave Europe. Even though they didn’t like the people at the front of that vote.
Got it.
Very familiar with binary election choices sometimes leaving one with a bittersweet taste.
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I’m sure you’ve got a good handle and I’ve probably just repeated what’s already been said. I think binary choices really do foul up our country’s a lot of the time.
I have a terrible way of deciding on politicians. I ask myself if I could trust them in my house when I’m not there. And why. Very few pass the test.