One was underage though. Not that she wasn’t attractive, just saying.
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Don’t get me wrong, Silvio is a piece of shit and Ruby was definitely 17 at the time of Bunga Bunga parties.
I’m just saying that I understand how he chose to spend his time and money, at least when it came to women above the age of consent.
Better that than playing golf.
I hear ya.
And anyway, the age of sexual consent is like 14 in Italy. It wasn’t a crime until he paid.
The Johnson team thanks the idiots behind this for their assistance in his leadership bid.
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It is distressing just how often John Gray and Peter Hitchens turn out to be right.
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Not gonna lie. I clicked into this thread and my immediate thought was “oh Jesus who cares what spiderman thinks of brexit…”
Upon closer inspection, that appears to not be spiderman
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Johnson would be a disaster for the UK. Great guy to lead a small enterprise - like London. But in charge over all. Please no.
On the subject of dishonest news in the Brexit debate:
I think that most people desire a centrist stance overall.
The issue that moves them off of this, are hardline positions on matters that attempt to sway the positions to an extreme. Once it becomes more than a few positions, enmity for the ‘other side’ takes over, and centrists become traitors in your eyes.
1 gun mass shooting - abolish private gun ownership
Prevent abortion as birth control - zero allowance for any abortion
Limiting immigration to legal, merit basis - unfettered, sponsored chain migration
And the like, until every subject has a side that is to be defended like a hill to die upon.
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I’m in complete agreement with that. I think he’s a bungling incompetent. His time in the foreign office was a disgrace.
It offers me no comfort that he is the presumptive nominee.
My preferences, in order:
- Raab
- Javid
- Baker
He didn’t actually have the capacity to negotiate, much of what was agreed was without any input from either BrexSec.
Olly Robbins was chief negotiator from start to finish.
Watch ‘Brexit: behind closed doors’ on bbc4.
Edit: he’s also for lowering income tax, so YOLO.
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Any picks for future PM? I promise we won’t bite.
Libdem, Brexit, Lab, Con, SNP, Green, I could care less.
Also, same question @yorkshireiron.
I have no idea.
Don’t really care. Kill them all (metaphorical - I’m not trying instigate a revolution (yet)).
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With you there. As a former Tory card holder, by God I wish I wasn’t.
I’m a loose tory voter. I want to be a socalist but at the moment to current moral standards of society are to low to make that work.
And I’d rather have the uk run by semi competent arseholes than incompetent do gooders.
By the current state if affairs is tragic. There aren’t even any good candidates. No leadership. Plain, gutless, middle of the road vote whores.
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None of them. I genuinely can’t think of a single one I’d want leading us.
They all come across as self-serving career politicians who have made it to the top my greasing the right poles.
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Ah, the CBI. A confederacy of dunces.
A spectator comment summarizes their litany of failures:
‘ 1. Advocated rejoining the gold standard in 1925. This meant that after the 1929 Crash Britain was unable to float sterling, resulting in a terrible credit squeeze that led to massive unemployment. The CBI (it was then the FBI - Federation of British Industry) was still opposing leaving the gold standard in 1931. When the UK did leave a few months later, the economy started to recover.
Verdict: CBI fail.
2. 1930s, supported the economic appeasement of N*zi Germany. The CBI (FBI) was still helping make arrangements between British and German big business in 1938 and 1939 (133 separate agreements). As German tanks rolled into Prague in 1939, the CBI (FBI) decided to go ahead with a trade mission to Germany and its partners in the N*zi Reichsgruppe Industrie.
Verdict: CBI fail; sympathy for N*zi warmongers, bordering on treason, helping to enable the deaths of millions at the hands of the German chemicals industry.
3. USSR. 1960s onwards, CBI constantly advocated in support of business with Soviet Union. Opposed sanctions in 1979 after Soviet invasion of Afgahanistan.
Verdict: CBI fail; more sympathy for warlike totalitarians.
4. Trade union reform. 1980: CBI opposed trade union reform. 7 yerars later CBI decided trade union reform had been a good idea after all. That is a level of ‘expertise’ akin to ‘predicting’ in 1978 that Brazil would win the 1970 World Cup.
Verdict: CBI fail.
5. ERM. In 1987 CBI called for full UK membership of the European Monetary System. UK susbequently crashed out, costing millions of jobs and house losses. Having left, the UK economy shortly afterwards began to recover.
Verdict: CBI fail, once again showing no economic sense.
6. The Euro. In 1999 CBI called for the UK to join the Euro.
Verdict CBI fail, once again showing no economic sense.
7. EU. Supported the Nice Treaty in 2000 and the Lisbon Treaty in 2008.
Verdict: CBI fail, once again showing no economic sense or respect for democracy.
Time and again the CBI has supported policies that undermined democracy, supported totalitarians, and were in any case proved to be economically disastrous.
Why on earth would anyone take pronouncements by the CBI seriously, except as reliable indicators for what not to do?‘
Holeeee fuck.