[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Good. Get back to us.
I hate cheeseburgers.
My burgers have no cheese or mayo.
Only white people like mayo.[/quote]
How much pure mayonnaise do you think you could eat out of a jar?
I ate 14 tablespoons once. [/quote]
is that true?
people don’t/can’t actually eat mayo by itself can they?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
But a widely accepted theory with supporting studies that aren’t 100% perfectly applicable = bro science… gotcha.[/quote]
If it is till a theory, that is because it has not been proven as fact.
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And the initial statement I made about insulin resistance what that it was a possibility. One that you decried as bro science and stupid.
Not to mention, in science, all things remain theory. There is no provable fact only better tested theory. Anyone with a basic education in science should know that.
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You are trolling, because I don’t believe you are as dumb and diluted as you are portraying yourself to be. You are a doctor after all…[/quote]
Dumb? I don’t see anything posted here that shows me to be dumb or deluded. What I do see is you insulting me and no one having a problem with it.[/quote]
Well, I’ve been insulting your ridiculous troll persona. In the case you aren’t actually trolling, I apologize, and now think far less of practice of dentistry.
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
The last 27 pages at least of this thread, except for all of heavythrower’s posts…who is AWESOME, are ridiculous. [/quote]
I fixed that for you. [/quote]
i fixed that for both of you.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Well, I’ve been insulting your ridiculous troll persona. In the case you aren’t actually trolling, I apologize, and now think far less of practice of dentistry.[/quote]
No problem here.
I still think you are nothing but the epitome of respect and honor with a true mind for science.
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
And CT said that he never says anything is impossible…but that a 80lb muscle gain by a natty is “extremely unlikely”
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Which, in his mind, proves just how awesome he really is.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Well, I’ve been insulting your ridiculous troll persona. In the case you aren’t actually trolling, I apologize, and now think far less of practice of dentistry.[/quote]
No problem here.
I still think you are nothing but the epitome of respect and honor with a true mind for science.[/quote]
Good, you not approving of me probably means I’m doing something right.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
And the initial statement I made about insulin resistance what that it was a possibility. One that you decried as bro science and stupid.[/quote]
But no science points to a direct relationship with insulin and fat gain. You can not say 1lbs of gain equals x amt of insulin resistance. Obesity is not the same as “:fat gain”. It is a condition that involves many factors.
Um, we do consider some things to be fact and some things to be theory. I am not sure what you mean here. Yes, we are still learning, and no, we do not have everything figured out yet…but no one is still calling the fact that we have bones a “theory”. They looked…and saw bones…so now it is fact.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Well, I’ve been insulting your ridiculous troll persona. In the case you aren’t actually trolling, I apologize, and now think far less of practice of dentistry.[/quote]
No problem here.
I still think you are nothing but the epitome of respect and honor with a true mind for science.[/quote]
Good, you not approving of me probably means I’m doing something right.[/quote]
?? Dude, I freaking LOVE you.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Well, I’ve been insulting your ridiculous troll persona. In the case you aren’t actually trolling, I apologize, and now think far less of practice of dentistry.[/quote]
No problem here.
I still think you are nothing but the epitome of respect and honor with a true mind for science.[/quote]
Good, you not approving of me probably means I’m doing something right.[/quote]
If you add up the list of people who “pick on him”, it’s a pretty damn impressive bunch of dudes.
Getting the dissaproval from X is like getting your pro-card.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
And the initial statement I made about insulin resistance what that it was a possibility. One that you decried as bro science and stupid.[/quote]
But no science points to a direct relationship with insulin and fat gain. You can not ay 1lbs of gain equals x amt of insulin resistance.
Um, we do consider some things to be fact and some things to be theory. I am not sure what you mean here. Yes, we are still learning, and no, we do not have everything figured out yet…but no one is still calling the fact that we have bones a “theory”. They looked…and saw bones…so now it is fact.
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No, science is always open minded to change of any principle. As such, there is no fact. Even the most basic seemingly self evident “truths” of nature have been disproved. I’d even go as far as to say, the current well tested theories are extremely non-self evident.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
No, science is always open minded to change of any principle.[/quote]
Then why aren’t you?
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
it’s not visible to the naked eye!
Yet you claimed you saw it during a dissection.
You are a liar.[/quote]
Wait…so first it doesn’t exist…and now that you find it does, you are arguing about what I saw in dissection?
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LOL
It’s not visible to the naked eye, so yes, you are lying that you saw it in dissection.
You are talking about something I never was. I said fat between cells and the sheath. You are contending that intercellular fat granules are significant in fascial stretching and muscle growth. You also kept talking about the “sarcoplasmic sheath,” as if that is common medical jargon. It is not, and that unit is far off from what we’re talking about. You truly were just repeating a muscle mag term. Again, this is showing your blatant ignorance in the subject matter.[/quote]
I don’t know what rule # this is, but one has to be:
when proven completely wrong, ignore it and then have a lengthy discussion on the broscientific method
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Nobody has a problem with Stu, because Stu never claimed something that is borderline impossible was easily achievable.
And because Stu is cordial and acomplished probably has something to do with it.[/quote]
But aren’t Stu’s accomplishments fraudulent - he is competing in natural BB and he is not natural?
the double standards seem a bit much.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What I do see is you insulting me and no one having a problem with it.[/quote]
I like a lot of the posters who love shitting all over Prof X. Although I honestly can’t see why people troll him so much. The kind of shit he says to people that gets everyone riled up seems pretty mild compared to a lot of folks on the site. I mean I guess the complaint is that he is opinionated, polarizing, and refuses to admit incorrectness. It’s not like he just personally insults people left and right though. I mean it can’t be any worse than just having a normal conversation with someone from like New Jersey or something.
Plus, in the most recent pic I saw of him he’s not fat. Or if he is fat by the TNation definition, then me and fucking everyone else on the sight save a handful of people are fat as hell. The vast majority of us don’t know anything about our own true bodyfat percentage or the bodyfat percentages of others. Seems a bit arbitrary to argue about as well. What matters is how you look. The bf% is incidental.
I dunno, I just don’t get it.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What I do see is you insulting me and no one having a problem with it.[/quote]
I like a lot of the posters who love shitting all over Prof X. Although I honestly can’t see why people troll him so much. The kind of shit he says to people that gets everyone riled up seems pretty mild compared to a lot of folks on the site. I mean I guess the complaint is that he is opinionated, polarizing, and refuses to admit incorrectness. It’s not like he just personally insults people left and right though. I mean it can’t be any worse than just having a normal conversation with someone from like New Jersey or something.
Plus, in the most recent pic I saw of him he’s not fat. Or if he is fat by the TNation definition, then me and fucking everyone else on the sight save a handful of people are fat as hell. The vast majority of us don’t know anything about our own true bodyfat percentage or the bodyfat percentages of others. Seems a bit arbitrary to argue about as well. What matters is how you look. The bf% is incidental.
I dunno, I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Neither do I…and that double standard is just making them look very whiny.
You would think I was just insulting people left and right…when they are the ones filling this thread with insults and stopping the discussion.
Maybe they can’t see the veins on my shoulders…you know…the kind that people have over 20%bf.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Nobody has a problem with Stu, because Stu never claimed something that is borderline impossible was easily achievable.
And because Stu is cordial and acomplished probably has something to do with it.[/quote]
But aren’t Stu’s accomplishments fraudulent - he is competing in natural BB and he is not natural?
the double standards seem a bit much.
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That is what this whole thread is.
If you claim you reached or gained more than the 80lbs limit, they will either claim you are so fat they can’t tell how much muscle you have or that you are not natural.
No matter what, they will not accept anyone even coming close without acting like that…but somehow it is a strict ceiling no one can cross?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What I do see is you insulting me and no one having a problem with it.[/quote]
I like a lot of the posters who love shitting all over Prof X. Although I honestly can’t see why people troll him so much. The kind of shit he says to people that gets everyone riled up seems pretty mild compared to a lot of folks on the site. I mean I guess the complaint is that he is opinionated, polarizing, and refuses to admit incorrectness. It’s not like he just personally insults people left and right though. I mean it can’t be any worse than just having a normal conversation with someone from like New Jersey or something.
Plus, in the most recent pic I saw of him he’s not fat. Or if he is fat by the TNation definition, then me and fucking everyone else on the sight save a handful of people are fat as hell. The vast majority of us don’t know anything about our own true bodyfat percentage or the bodyfat percentages of others. Seems a bit arbitrary to argue about as well. What matters is how you look. The bf% is incidental.
I dunno, I just don’t get it.[/quote]
Neither do I…and that double standard is just making them look very whiny.
You would think I was just insulting people left and right…when they are the ones filling this thread with insults and stopping the discussion.
Maybe they can’t see the veins on my shoulders…you know…the kind that people have over 20%bf.[/quote]
vascularity does not mean as much as you think. look at the most recent pic i posted, i have vascularity in my upper and lower arms, shoulders, traps, neck, lats, thighs, calves. is still have “love handles” and man boobs.
better question, based on the pic i posted earlier this thread, what do you think MY bf % is.
i bet i am over 20% at least, but i am still pretty vascular.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What I do see is you insulting me and no one having a problem with it.[/quote]
I like a lot of the posters who love shitting all over Prof X. Although I honestly can’t see why people troll him so much. The kind of shit he says to people that gets everyone riled up seems pretty mild compared to a lot of folks on the site. I mean I guess the complaint is that he is opinionated, polarizing, and refuses to admit incorrectness. It’s not like he just personally insults people left and right though. I mean it can’t be any worse than just having a normal conversation with someone from like New Jersey or something.
Plus, in the most recent pic I saw of him he’s not fat. Or if he is fat by the TNation definition, then me and fucking everyone else on the sight save a handful of people are fat as hell. The vast majority of us don’t know anything about our own true bodyfat percentage or the bodyfat percentages of others. Seems a bit arbitrary to argue about as well. What matters is how you look. The bf% is incidental.
I dunno, I just don’t get it.[/quote]
That’s because you have been here less than a year. You have not witnessed what we have. It may blow your mind to know that many of “haterz crew” used to be friendly with or even defend PX. His condescending posts and inability to have a civil debate with those who have opposing views isn’t being tolerated anymore. In his mind though, he’s never done anything to deserve this treatment.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
vascularity does not mean as much as you think. look at the most recent pic i posted, i have vascularity in my upper and lower arms, shoulders, traps, neck, lats, thighs, calves. is still have “love handles” and man boobs.
better question, based on the pic i posted earlier this thread, what do you think MY bf % is.
i bet i am over 20% at least, but i am still pretty vascular.
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I missed the pic and am about to leave. I will play the guessing game later. I already know that vascularity alone is not an indication of body fat…but I know I don’t see veins like the one on my left shoulder when I am fatter or the ones down my arms.
[quote]yolo84 wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
Nobody has a problem with Stu, because Stu never claimed something that is borderline impossible was easily achievable.
And because Stu is cordial and acomplished probably has something to do with it.[/quote]
But aren’t Stu’s accomplishments fraudulent - he is competing in natural BB and he is not natural?
the double standards seem a bit much.
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Stu competes in a federation (s?) which is titled natural with guidelines and rules in place to reach in order for competitors to fall in and be classified as whatever they define “natural” as.
My definition of natural may be completely different to yours but that does not nullify the fact he is competing in a competition labeled natural and competes well within the guidelines.