[quote]big nurse wrote:
Very sore and ‘heavy’ today, seem to get a lot more doms with the longer session.
Oh well, conditioning and walk today.[/quote]
hmmm, i get more DOMS when i have longer days in between.
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What–when you have more rest days ??. I have been noticing a lot more soreness with 3 things : training days back to back and from the high volume sessions, and when i do more 'failure sets or drop sets. Just so happens that what i am doing is…back to back days and high volume days. Last night was worst muscle soreness i have had since i started with weights.
[quote]big nurse wrote:
Very sore and ‘heavy’ today, seem to get a lot more doms with the longer session.
Oh well, conditioning and walk today.[/quote]
hmmm, i get more DOMS when i have longer days in between.
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What–when you have more rest days ??. I have been noticing a lot more soreness with 3 things : training days back to back and from the high volume sessions, and when i do more 'failure sets or drop sets. Just so happens that what i am doing is…back to back days and high volume days. Last night was worst muscle soreness i have had since i started with weights.
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You’ll find the longer you do this the less sore you will get or the more extreme the increases (weight or volume) have to be to cause soreness.
Easiest way to get sore for me is to do a new movement (one that involves a loaded stretch) or lifting after a lay off. Volume increases and small increases in weight don’t really do it.
Make the most of the soreness while you are a newbie (if you like that sort of thing).
[quote]big nurse wrote:
Very sore and ‘heavy’ today, seem to get a lot more doms with the longer session.
Oh well, conditioning and walk today.[/quote]
hmmm, i get more DOMS when i have longer days in between.
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What–when you have more rest days ??. I have been noticing a lot more soreness with 3 things : training days back to back and from the high volume sessions, and when i do more 'failure sets or drop sets. Just so happens that what i am doing is…back to back days and high volume days. Last night was worst muscle soreness i have had since i started with weights.
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Yes I used to do legs and be so sore that i could barely walk for a couple days(i want them to grow and thought this was the way) so i couldnt trainin didnt want to train till the soreness was gone. Then when I started training like i am the days are shorter but the workload is up there and i recover much faster? i dont know. Maybe its just the type of training Im doing, sorry i probably am more confusing haha
My sailboat WABI" part way through a total refit to go ‘ocean’ in a couple of years time. For anyone interested she’s an american (chuck paine) design.
Good news today.
My partner,having been resisting the idea of either gym or weights has joined the gym and signed up to do some work with the same guy that got me started.
Havn’t yet persuaded her to start a thread here yet though.
Also my measure-in today :
Waist now a definite 34"
Weigh in at 83 kg but maybe a bit water heavy as quite salty food yesterday.
Fat folds possibly a mm or so smaller but really hard to tell.
While she was getting joined up and signed on :
Squats, once again pairing up barbell (rear) squat with goblet squat …and press ups in between each squat set to keep the workload going.
Aim of starting out light is to try to establish good form and then surge up to a heavier squat while keeping the form (mainly depth). Working on the principle of keeping adding weight until either horsepower or form breaks down.
Barbell warm up 1x10
Rear squat 99lbs 1x10
Goblet squat 55lbs kb 1x10
Rear squat 110lbs 1x10
Goblet sqaut 70lbs db 1x10
Rear squat 121lbs 1x8
Goblet squat 75lbs 1x8
Rear squat 132lbs 1x8
Goblet squat 75lbs 1x8
Rear squat 143lbs 1x5
Goblet squat 80lbs 1x5
Rear squat 154 1x3
Goblet squat 84lb 1x5
Rear squat 154 1x3 )probably only about 2/3rd range)
Goblet squat 88lb 1x3.
Deload at end with :
rear squat 88lbs 1x10 (better depth at end)
goblet squat 55lb kb 1x10 ( depth still improving)
Looking back on my early squatting i can see how poor my depth was–not exactly brilliant yet but improving.
Really liking the goblet squat, problem with the heavier weight is getting the dumbell up into position but still feel that there is more to come.
Possible progression will be to go straight to the heavier end after warm up–but still working out where the working range is.
Also useful in that i will be ablle to do the squat at home, thinking of doing a combination with some mooring chain over my shoulders and my home kb.
(Just edited to lbs)
Press ups i think 10x10 but lost count somewhere.
Then onto deadlift
Barbell warmup
60kg 1x10
80kg 1x10
90kg 1x8
100kg 1x5
110kg 2.
Deload with 60kg 1x10.
Definite problem emerging with the deadlift in that when i finish a ‘heavier’ set (above 90kg) i get strong spasm in one part of my lower back and have to sort that before commencing another set–might be a functional limit at around 100kg at the moment until my back gets much stronger.
Stretched a bit and walked home.
Tonight is first of 3 back to back training sessions pre-work, might even get a conditioning set in tonight.
Great news about your partner!! Dont force her to do a log, I was debating for a loooong time. Not that it wouldnt be nice to have another chick in here with us!
[quote]UpScale wrote:
Great news about your partner!! Dont force her to do a log, I was debating for a loooong time. Not that it wouldnt be nice to have another chick in here with us!
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It’s her first session today, looking forward to seeing how it goes.
Can’t see her running a thread although it will be fascinating to see how she records what she does do.
As for me :really really sore tonight–hardly even delayed onset, sore right now.
Really, really…realy sore on waking up this afternoon and a real struggle to get out of bed, fed and off to gym.
One of those times when an excuse not to train would have been so easy.
Anyway: walk to the gym which gradulaly woke me up and worked off some of the soreness and into the gym with queen ‘we will rock you’ on the pod. Gym very quiet.
Straight onto a lats pull down drop set paired with presss-ups.
This time aiming at a starting weight above my own body weight which i have never tried before.
So starting at 85kg for one maximum pull and followed by some 8 or 9 close order drops, droping 2-3 kg each drop and trying to add reps each time and finishing at around 65kg with 8 reps.
Paired with sets of standard press-ups in between each drop, again around 7 or 8 sets of 10 but losing count. Aiming for 100 in the sesion again but ran out of time, also still sore from yesterdays ‘hundred’.
Pulling over my body weight (83kg this week) is a first and hopefully will lead on to regular sets of body weight+ pull ups.
Running short on time so a quick session with mp 2x10 and a blast on the rower.
Any overhead press is still my weakest push although i do have to admit that it’s usually the last lift i do.
Aiming for 1 ‘stair set’ (6 floors up and down) each hour on shift.
Great work. Born in England 53 years back. Been in Canada all my life, 7 weeks old. Huddersfield, Yorkshire was the place, I think there’s a plaque there lol. Keep up the great work, and always remember, this is for life. Stay strong!
Brett. I have been sailing since i was 20 when i had a temporary job in a boatyard (turned into 3 years !!).
Im did the classic thing of going out for a sail with a boat owner and quite literally being ‘shown the ropes’.
I got into offshore racing very quickly and sailed regularly in the irish sea offshore circuit and the channel race series.
Back in 1989 i was lucky to get a ride in the whitbread round the world race and went professional for 5 years–crewing and driving maxi boats.
I have since given that up and like to play around with my own little boat, which i am gradually refitting and getting ready for some big ocean miles.
The way i am working is really about making best use of time in the gym and in between.
Tonight i was really suffering on the bench (next post), i think pre-tired and on the end of 4 sessions back to back–sort of learning to apply some discipline an dwork when not ideal.
Streamline…hudersfield eh, another displaced yorkshireman (sheffield) gods own county. Nice to herar from you.
Anyone remember a song by the clash ‘i fought the law and the law won’ ? , well tonight i fought the bar and the bar won !!.
Continuing with the experiment of different ways of working i went for a 3rd night of back to back training with the main aim of hitting bench press first and squats second prior to 2 complete rest days (work on boat)
Bench initialy went quite well :
Bare bar warm up.1x10
66lb second warm up 1x10
88lb 1x10
99lb 1x8
110lb 1x5 (felt ok)
Took it to 121 lb with the aim of getting 1x3, got the first one and then completely stuck on the secondf one,couldn’t even rack properly, kind of ended up racked across 2 different heights and had to slide out from under the bar. Just wouldn’t go.
It’s possible that i was pre-fatigued from 2 nights of 100 press-ups during other sets and also fatigued from night shifts + poor sleep.
So instead of continuing at high (for me) weight i set up on squats again, coming back to the bench re-set at 99lbs.
Something like :
Squat-barbell warm up 1x10
Rear squat 110 lb 1x10
Goblet squat 53lb 1x10
If you are doing lat pull-downs at greater than bodyweight, consider going to pull-ups. The difference being pull-ups are an open-chain movement that recruits more stabilizing muscles and is more challenging.
[quote]soldog wrote:
nice work doing all this and working shifts!
If you are doing lat pull-downs at greater than bodyweight, consider going to pull-ups. The difference being pull-ups are an open-chain movement that recruits more stabilizing muscles and is more challenging.[/quote]
Yes i get that, i can see that if i can continue atnear to body weight then the transition to pull-ups will be the obvious move. Then pull-ups will simply become part of my home routine (i have a bar)and mixed in at the gym with other exercises in between sets.
The real challenge i would like to crack would be weighted pull-ups, feel like a long way from that yet though.
At the moment i find chin-ups a lot easier than pull-ups, was hoping that pull ups will come with the lat pull-down work.
[quote]soldog wrote:
nice work doing all this and working shifts!
If you are doing lat pull-downs at greater than bodyweight, consider going to pull-ups. The difference being pull-ups are an open-chain movement that recruits more stabilizing muscles and is more challenging.[/quote]
Yes i get that, i can see that if i can continue atnear to body weight then the transition to pull-ups will be the obvious move. Then pull-ups will simply become part of my home routine (i have a bar)and mixed in at the gym with other exercises in between sets.
The real challenge i would like to crack would be weighted pull-ups, feel like a long way from that yet though.
At the moment i find chin-ups a lot easier than pull-ups, was hoping that pull ups will come with the lat pull-down work.
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sorry - didn’t mean to redundantly state the redundantly obvious…
[quote]soldog wrote:
nice work doing all this and working shifts!
If you are doing lat pull-downs at greater than bodyweight, consider going to pull-ups. The difference being pull-ups are an open-chain movement that recruits more stabilizing muscles and is more challenging.[/quote]
Yes i get that, i can see that if i can continue atnear to body weight then the transition to pull-ups will be the obvious move. Then pull-ups will simply become part of my home routine (i have a bar)and mixed in at the gym with other exercises in between sets.
The real challenge i would like to crack would be weighted pull-ups, feel like a long way from that yet though.
At the moment i find chin-ups a lot easier than pull-ups, was hoping that pull ups will come with the lat pull-down work.
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sorry - didn’t mean to redundantly state the redundantly obvious…[/quote]
No need to apologise, it’s really nice to hear from somebody else.
Eventually i would like to be able to get more training done at home and a lot of what i a doing now is to develop in that direction.
Some body weight exercises lke pull-ups and push-ups would form the core of a non gym training plan along with some simple equipment work.
