[quote]lixy wrote:
Future? What future?[/quote]
Good God, you ignorant cunt. If it weren’t for the US trade imbalance, the rest of the world would have nothing. Like it or not - we pull the world’s economic train.
I have absolutely nothing I can export. I have a totally one-sided trade balance sheet. Does that mean I have no future?
Honestly - either show up to play, or shut the fuck up. Or does someone need to get pookie to shame your worthless ass into shutting up?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
lixy wrote:
Future? What future?
Good God, you ignorant cunt. If it weren’t for the US trade imbalance, the rest of the world would have nothing. Like it or not - we pull the world’s economic train.
[/quote]
Wait, if the Americans would not consume the goods, that the people producing them could otherwise consume themselves, the rest of the world would have less, even nothing?
Interesting.
How does that work?
[quote]orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
lixy wrote:
Future? What future?
Good God, you ignorant cunt. If it weren’t for the US trade imbalance, the rest of the world would have nothing. Like it or not - we pull the world’s economic train.
Wait, if the Americans would not consume the goods, that the people producing them could otherwise consume themselves, the rest of the world would have less, even nothing?
Interesting.
How does that work?
[/quote]
You need to go back and think a little harder. The answer is almost to where you can reach it - just try a little harder.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
lixy wrote:
Future? What future?
Good God, you ignorant cunt. If it weren’t for the US trade imbalance, the rest of the world would have nothing. Like it or not - we pull the world’s economic train.
Wait, if the Americans would not consume the goods, that the people producing them could otherwise consume themselves, the rest of the world would have less, even nothing?
Interesting.
How does that work?
You need to go back and think a little harder. The answer is almost to where you can reach it - just try a little harder.
[/quote]
Obviously it is beyond my limited capacity of understanding.
But, out of the sheer kindness of your heart, I am sure that you would not let me stumble through the dark if you already knew the answer.
[quote]orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
lixy wrote:
Future? What future?
Good God, you ignorant cunt. If it weren’t for the US trade imbalance, the rest of the world would have nothing. Like it or not - we pull the world’s economic train.
Wait, if the Americans would not consume the goods, that the people producing them could otherwise consume themselves, the rest of the world would have less, even nothing?
Interesting.
How does that work?
You need to go back and think a little harder. The answer is almost to where you can reach it - just try a little harder.
Obviously it is beyond my limited capacity of understanding.
But, out of the sheer kindness of your heart, I am sure that you would not let me stumble through the dark if you already knew the answer.
[/quote]
Your first mistake is assuming that I have a heart.
But I will give you a hint. The world economy is not a zero-sum game.
[quote]lixy wrote:
When I bought my first Nirvana CD, it brought loads of new ideas to my world.
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And more importantly, didn’t it just rock your small world?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
lixy wrote:
Future? What future?
Good God, you ignorant cunt. If it weren’t for the US trade imbalance, the rest of the world would have nothing. Like it or not - we pull the world’s economic train.
Wait, if the Americans would not consume the goods, that the people producing them could otherwise consume themselves, the rest of the world would have less, even nothing?
Interesting.
How does that work?
You need to go back and think a little harder. The answer is almost to where you can reach it - just try a little harder.
Obviously it is beyond my limited capacity of understanding.
But, out of the sheer kindness of your heart, I am sure that you would not let me stumble through the dark if you already knew the answer.
Your first mistake is assuming that I have a heart.
But I will give you a hint. The world economy is not a zero-sum game.
[/quote]
And that leads to people would have less if they did not sell to you in exchange for IOU´s how?
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
lixy wrote:
When I bought my first Nirvana CD, it brought loads of new ideas to my world.
And more importantly, didn’t it just rock your small world?[/quote]
Wow. You guys must have been pretty damn shallow.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
The world economy is not a zero-sum game.
[/quote]
So much so that it cannot even be analyzed as a game.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
The world economy is not a zero-sum game.
So much so that it cannot even be analyzed as a game.
[/quote]
And yet there is game theory
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Wow. You guys must have been pretty damn shallow.[/quote]
Coming from you this means nothing.
Maybe you can share with us a story of when you first discovered Captain & Tennille, since we’re so shallow and all.
[quote]orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
lixy wrote:
Future? What future?
Good God, you ignorant cunt. If it weren’t for the US trade imbalance, the rest of the world would have nothing. Like it or not - we pull the world’s economic train.
Wait, if the Americans would not consume the goods, that the people producing them could otherwise consume themselves, the rest of the world would have less, even nothing?
Interesting.
How does that work?
You need to go back and think a little harder. The answer is almost to where you can reach it - just try a little harder.
Obviously it is beyond my limited capacity of understanding.
But, out of the sheer kindness of your heart, I am sure that you would not let me stumble through the dark if you already knew the answer.
Your first mistake is assuming that I have a heart.
But I will give you a hint. The world economy is not a zero-sum game.
And that leads to people would have less if they did not sell to you in exchange for IOU´s how?
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I’m pretty sure businesses don’t take IOU’s. I know China won’t sell ANYTHING to me on credit. Cash on the barrel head is the only way I can do business with them. No one is forcing other countries to buy our debt - the fact is, our debt is the safest investment on the planet.
If we stop buying shit, other countries stop making as much shit. You make less shit, you have less money. You have less money, and you buy less shit.
Connect the dots, slick.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Wow. You guys must have been pretty damn shallow.
Coming from you this means nothing.
Maybe you can share with us a story of when you first discovered Captain & Tennille, since we’re so shallow and all.[/quote]
weak
[quote]orion wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
The world economy is not a zero-sum game.
So much so that it cannot even be analyzed as a game.
And yet there is game theory
[/quote]
For analyzing games – conflicts where there is a definite winner and loser.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
lixy wrote:
Future? What future?
Good God, you ignorant cunt. If it weren’t for the US trade imbalance, the rest of the world would have nothing. Like it or not - we pull the world’s economic train.
Wait, if the Americans would not consume the goods, that the people producing them could otherwise consume themselves, the rest of the world would have less, even nothing?
Interesting.
How does that work?
You need to go back and think a little harder. The answer is almost to where you can reach it - just try a little harder.
Obviously it is beyond my limited capacity of understanding.
But, out of the sheer kindness of your heart, I am sure that you would not let me stumble through the dark if you already knew the answer.
Your first mistake is assuming that I have a heart.
But I will give you a hint. The world economy is not a zero-sum game.
And that leads to people would have less if they did not sell to you in exchange for IOU´s how?
I’m pretty sure businesses don’t take IOU’s. I know China won’t sell ANYTHING to me on credit. Cash on the barrel head is the only way I can do business with them. No one is forcing other countries to buy our debt - the fact is, our debt is the safest investment on the planet.
If we stop buying shit, other countries stop making as much shit. You make less shit, you have less money. You have less money, and you buy less shit.
Connect the dots, slick. [/quote]
I will, just for you.
American debt is one of the worst of the world, the dollar constantly loses value and will continue to do so long as you have a trade deficit.
Sooner or later the bubble will burst and America will tumble into a recession. This time, a real one.
There would be a short crisis, because now India and China produce for American consumer preferences.
They will then start to produce for their ever growing home markets. 2 billion people that actually pay in cash are a huge market to explore.
Then, they will simply consume the amount you consume for them now, and no one will miss you.
When exactly?
I don´t know, when the Chinese government stops sucking your debt from the market like a giant vacuum cleaner.
Then it will happen very, very fast, while Bloomberg TV will still broadcast that the world cannot exist if the US does not take the cream of the top.
We´ll see in the next ten years anyway, but put at least some money into EUR or CHF investments. Considering what´s the best and what is the worst that could happen this way and that you have a family to take care of, that should make sense to you.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
orion wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
The world economy is not a zero-sum game.
So much so that it cannot even be analyzed as a game.
And yet there is game theory
For analyzing games – conflicts where there is a definite winner and loser.[/quote]
I dunno.
I never seem to find the time to look into it.
We’ve had a trade deficit for at least 28 years.
We have had a shit ton of debt since the revolutionary war. People were crying your tune back in the 70’s with Japan, and the 80’s with Saudi Arabia. We’re still here.
The dollar is gaining strength. Has been for a few weeks now. Oils has been falling like a rock. when we get oil prices down to a reasonable price, the dollar will get even stronger. That will happen when we get out if Iraq.
China and India make goods for the US that their people would have to work a year to afford. That’s why we buy shit from them, and most all of the 3rd world countries we buy from: exponentially cheaper labor.
There’s no bubble to burst. We are not a dot com with no assets to back up our debt. When we get close to being upside down, you might have a point, but we are far, far, far from that.
In 10 years, I will be a multi-millionaire, living on an island somewhere with some scantily clad little native girl fetching me drinks as I am relaxing on the beach.
And that will happen with me never soiling my pockets with a fucking Euro.
China is where it is at, and will be for the forseeable future.
I don’t get you Euro-centric people. You are pissed at us when our dollar is kicking your ass, and you are pissed at us when it getting its ass kicked. There is no pleasing you.