Actually I believe the notion of premarital sex or sex with a member of the same sex is seen as sinful. The church covers it up because it’s SOOOO bad, gives religion a bad name… can’t exactly come out and say “this systemic state of sexual oppression present within the Catholic Church is impacting sexual preference” or “the laws present here, the way things are run creates a safe haven, a paradise for child molesters”… They say “well this just isn’t happening, everything is totally fine”
Statistically speaking, people who prey on children tend to gravitate towards positions wherein they’re… wait for it… frequently within close proximity to kids… a minister/priest is the perfect cover
I always get interested in these debates, then this rationale of thinking rather heavily dances across my thought, and I cant bring myself to carry on the argument. Hence why twice I’ve chimed in, and twice I’ve just left.
I just objectively, morally; and I’d happily argue rationally, cannot debate the greater morally nuanced discussions like abortion, when this preface is hard coded in the opponents mind.
I have no qualms against religion. I personally dont agree with it, but I’ve met plenty of pleasurable people with faith. But at some point, you’ve got to be able to separate good intentions and indoctrination from ancient text. Especially when attempting to discuss with the most godless generation since organized religion was founded.
This is my exact ideology. So long as someones religious beliefs don’t equate to preaching or forcefully conveying ideology that has the potential to stigmatise or hurt an otherwise innocent demographic.
For instance
I have no problem with someone saying “I believe based on biblical preaching that abortion is a sin”
But I do have a problem with waiting outside abortion clinics, protesting and spewing hateful insults directly towards visibly distressed young women going in for a procedure… no one likes getting an abortion, for some it’s actually traumatic…
I’d argue most. It’s a big decision, that generally requires extreme introspection, and a lot of uncertainty, that most anyone will have a hard time ever fully coming to terms with. Which is why:
Is completely unacceptable.
For a vast array of issues, most people have a… general code of decency. People tend to know certain subjects are better left well enough alone, because we do have a mental capacity for judgment. Along the lines of “there are certain things that you simply never say to someone, under absolutely any circumstances”
I believe protesting abortion clinics runs along those lines.
Especially considering the state of women’s rights, currently. In my state at least, women arent even allowed to decide to get snipped until at least 26 years old. It’s not a law, it’s just doctors flat out refusing the service. Which is fucking insane that it isnt discussed more.
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Meanwhile I could get an outpatient surgery literally tomorrow, even if I was 21. No questions other than “would you like to store some sperm for later?”
Planned Parenthood is within a few miles of the ghetto. That’s a stupid thing to say by someone with no clue of geography. How far is the White House or Wall Street from a ghetto?
Yep. I wouldn’t have gone there but when he says I want to sexually abuse women (which isn’t even close to true) I don’t mind throwing that out. Perhaps instead of trying to stop people from using items that prevent pregnancy he should try to stop the members in his church from raping kids.
The paper certainly isn’t the most rigorously designed, though it replicates a hypothetical outcome I’ve spoken about prior.
Access to contraception when required probably equates to lower rates of teen pregnancy, higher rates of educational literacy etc.
There’s certainly a correlation behind youth pregnancy and educational/financial outcomes. The easiest and most obvious answer would be “don’t have sex”, good luck enforcing that upon a hormonally volatile demographic.
I disagree with the notion of abstinence until marriage/whenever. Rampant promiscuity can certainly be associated with a ton of consequence, though I don’t believe a hard 180 degree turn is amicable to positive outcome either.