Opinions please.
Bill said BCAA can be omitted pre and during workout, how should I adjust acordingly.
I don’t think you need to be that obsessive. Just begin sipping 15 minutes prior to training. If you notice that you’re not consuming much, drink more. Overall, it will average out to the numbers you posted.
Two scoops with only 10 ounces of water is likely to be a bit too concentrated for most people’s taste. I recommend starting with the recommended 10 ounces of water per scoop and adjust from there.
There’s no point in getting carried away with extreme changes to the recommended use before you’ve even tried Surge Workout Fuel as recommended. Besides, the recommended use is based on the feedback of professional athletes using the product over the past two years.[/quote]
Opps I meant to say 20oz for 2 scoops I’m from UK I normally work in ml not oz. Yeah I tend to be obsessive when it comes to things like this…
I’m sure it’s more of a six-of-one-half-a-dozen-of-the-other thing as what to recommend there, but personally for the same expenditure over time, I’d rather see someone use it as recommended (2 scoops per hour) half the weeks of the training year, than use it half-dose all the time.
If I am doing something along the lines of the following:
Pre:
10-20 g BCAA
During:
1-2 scoops Surge/Metabolic Drive/Whey
5 g creatine
After:
10-20 g BCAA
1-2 Scoops Surge/Metabolic Drive/Whey
I assume I should switch to:
Pre:
10-20 g BCAA
During:
Surge Workout Fuel
After:
Surge, Whey+BCAA
But, my question is, does workout fuel make the BCAAs non important?
Finally! After all the mentions in articles, the taunting, the speculation in the forums of it possibly costing upwards of 150 bucks, FINALLY! Nice price too. About time!
I better order this shit quick before it runs out.
[quote]Foenix wrote:
I just made an order yesterday, but I guess I’m making another haha… my parents are gunna shit a brick.
Question:
What do you guys think is a good hypertrophy program to help take advantage of the SURGE Workout Fuel. HSS-100? HFT?[/quote]
High volume/high density training relying on glycolysis for fuel. HSS would be good, but I would go more along the lines of The NEW German Body Comp program by Poliquin where you superset 3 exercises for the same muscle group…
Exercise 1 = sets of 6-8 reps
Exercise 2 = sets of 10-12 reps
Exercise 3 = sets of 25-30 reps
As personal opinion, if using SURGE Recovery and finding it necessary to conserve the SURGE Workout Fuel, I would do it by skipping the postworkout consumption while keeping the pre and during workout consumption.
However, if able to use the SURGE Workout Fuel fully according to the recommendation, other than both supplying carbs (in different forms) there is about no overlap between the SURGE Workout Fuel and SURGE Recovery. In other words, the SURGE Recovery is not supplying the citrulline or beta-alanine that the further scoop of SURGE Workout Fuel provides, which are still helpful immediately postworkout.
(And the SURGE Workout Fuel is not supplying the whey hydrolysate that the SURGE Recovery does, nor nearly as much of a timely large hit of glucose.)
Thib, the paragrapth on the side of the article saying your hockey player gained 11 pounds of lean body mass, what Surge Workout Fuel protocol was used exactly for that player?
[quote]crod266 wrote:
thib, the paragrapth on the side of the article saying your hockey player gained 11 pounds of lean body mass, what Surge workout fuel protocol was used exactly for that player?[/quote]
1 serving of Workout Fuel per session (1/2 right before, 1/2 throughout)
1 to 2 servings of Surge Recovery post-workout: 1 servings after small workouts (arms), 1 1/2 servings after the main upper body workout (torso), 2 servings after the lower body workouts
No need to get too complex with the dosing, folks. It’s pretty simple really. For the average weight trainer with the goal of building muscle, performing better in real life, and keeping lean, here’s what I suggest (and what I do):
Mix two scoops of Surge Workout Fuel into a water bottle or shaker. I use a Turbo Shaker, but Fuel mixes instantly with just a spoon and cup. Comes to about 20 ounces of water.
Start sipping it on the way to the gym and throughout a general warm-up.
Drink the rest as you train. My last swallow usually comes 10-15 minutes or so before I’m finished.
Drink Surge Recovery after your workout.
This stuff is truly insane. GONE are the rules about keeping training under an hour. Well, maybe they shouldn’t be “gone,” but you’ll feel like doing more. I catch myself tossing in extra forearm or ab work just because I don’t feel like stopping. Note that this isn’t a stimulant effect, but rather a FUELED effect. You’ll see what I mean once you try it.
For my “off days” I’ve been doing what I call a Challenge Workout, sort of an intense “cardio” circuit of mostly body weight movements. Right now it looks like this:
Start a timer:
10 reps push press with 45 pound bar
10 reps body weight squats
10 reps push-ups
10 reps inverted rows (fat man pull-ups)
Repeat 10 times for 100 total reps and try to beat your previous time.
When I first started doing this, I’d get 19 minutes or so. Added a single scoop of Surge Workout Fuel and now I’m at 13 minutes 44 seconds.
I expected to adapt and get better, but this huge leap took place in 3 workouts. Amazing. (Next up, break into the 12 minute range.)
