Okay. I gotta ask. When you guys “fail” in a squat, do you just drop until the bar hits the pins in a cage? I have a fear of lurching forward and having the bar hit me in the bar of the head, possibly knocking me out and making me look like a huge dolt. So I generally ask for a spot or wait until my coach is around to try anything crazy.
My squat rack is like this:
so if the bar goes down and won’t come up, I just let it sit on the safety bars. At the weights I’m using, I’m not actually out of control – when I fail, I could sit at the bottom of the squat indefinitely, I just can’t quite make it to a standing position.
Nice training Alisa! And no wonder you’ve got such wicked shoulders, your OHP is really strong.
I wish I could help you about the wrist pain… maybe you’re over-extending them when you hold the bar in a squat?
puling two plates
fast time on a 400
9 mile run
fuck yeah is right nice work
and yes the sama progress pics are superb
I broke down and got wrist wraps
they help keep the hands inline with wrists vs bent back.
wrists are actually kind of a small joint.
8 little bitty bons.
Thanks (though, RBlue, you may have got it wrong – you’re the one with shoulders.)
Maybe the wrist wraps are the answer. My wrists are cocked all the way back, which is what hurts.
how often do you cock your wrists all the way back? do you lean with your elbows on desks, counters, etc?
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i bet not often. get a rollin pin, a pen, something, and roll your forearms like you (should) do anything else. esp if you’re demanding that kind of flexibility and load from them. also, i see a whole lot of people squat wearing wrist wraps.
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stop. your ulnar nerve hates you.
congrats on bein almost back up to your previous max.
kp- the one time i’ve ever dumped a bar was the first time i had 185 on my back, and my spotter grabbed my lats. i wasnt expecting it, and just dropped to the floor, loaded bar crashing onto the safety bars. other than that, when i fail, it that i get partway out of the hole and cant make it all the way up without the help of my spotter.
Yep, CBear, that’s how I fail too. Get partway out of the hole and then have my coach help the rest of the way up. But . . . if no spotter is available . . . I tend to sort of “good morning” when I fail and fear falling forward with the bar crashing into me.
Congrats on the back to lifting heavy things!
Ah, you with spotters…
CBear, I’m not sure what rolling entails. I have a tendency to cock my wrists back all the time when lifting (bench, squats, basically anything where my hands are facing up) and the heavier I go, the more pressure I feel.
Yup, congrats Alisa on almost getting to your previous max - you’ll be there in no time.
I just rolled my forearms with a pen. Felt gooood!
Snapper, when I fail on a squat its at the bottom and I just dump the bar on the rails. I don’t fear lurching forward, but then again you squat way more weight than I do.
Are you still in the you know what phase? (dieting/cutting, etc)
no.
Not going to be too much of a pig, but right now screw diets, I want to get strong.
YAY!! 
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no.
Not going to be too much of a pig, but right now screw diets, I want to get strong.[/quote]
Indeed. To hell with them!
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
Thanks (though, RBlue, you may have got it wrong – you’re the one with shoulders.)
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Pshht, seriously, enough with the false modesty! I saw your shoulders in T-vixen, and they are fabulous!
I’d try to avoid the wrist-cocking if I were you; from what I understand you want to try to keep your wrists straight when pressing (or doing anything else other than wrist curls for that matter).
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
Ah, you with spotters…
CBear, I’m not sure what rolling entails. I have a tendency to cock my wrists back all the time when lifting (bench, squats, basically anything where my hands are facing up) and the heavier I go, the more pressure I feel.[/quote]
put rolling pin/pen/other cylindrical object on counter/desk/table. roll forearm forward and back. repeat.
not a great workout – forgot dinner.
squat: 10@45, 10@95, 5@115, 5@135, 3@155, 3@165, 1@175
bench: 10@45, 10@65, 5@85, 5@95, 1@105
deadlift: a bunch of reps for form @155. I’d been slacking off with the back arch over the past month, and I started off all rounded over, but then I made a special point of concentrating on driving my back into my butt, and I think they came out rather pretty.
reverse grip curls: 4x5@45
10 pullups
I figured out how to make my wrists stop hurting on the squats – if I pull my elbows back higher, I don’t cock my wrists so much.
[quote]AlisaV wrote:
not a great workout – forgot dinner.
squat: 10@45, 10@95, 5@115, 5@135, 3@155, 3@165, 1@175
bench: 10@45, 10@65, 5@85, 5@95, 1@105
deadlift: a bunch of reps for form @155. I’d been slacking off with the back arch over the past month, and I started off all rounded over, but then I made a special point of concentrating on driving my back into my butt, and I think they came out rather pretty.
reverse grip curls: 4x5@45
10 pullups
I figured out how to make my wrists stop hurting on the squats – if I pull my elbows back higher, I don’t cock my wrists so much.[/quote]
I’d invest in some wrist wraps. I never used to use them until I started pushing my elbows forward. That meant the weight was sitting more heavily in my hands. I still get a substantial amount of pain. When I’m squatting heavy leading up to a meet my hands bother me more than anything just from squatting. I’ve also been told the pain is referred from my shoulders from having such a close grip on squat. Maybe you do as well. I just can’t seem to feel tight moving it wider.
On the fail scenario, your best to have a spotter when you go heavier or get a helmet. A couple of weeks ago I pitched forward with 285 and it rolled up my neck and off the back of my head onto the pins. I had a spotter and it happened so fast he couldn’t catch me. My head was fine but I had bruises and skid marks up my neck from the knurling. It gave me a bit of a start for sure.
I’m sure glad I’m not the only one going for a pretty deadlift. Heavy, but pretty.