[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Glad to see Kerry has changed his opinion of the military recently…or not.
http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php
Oh boy, here we have the lying whores again.[/quote]
Hmmm…calling 250 Swift Boat veterans ‘lying whores’…
…issues? Mental illness?
Hey BostonBarrister…your fellow right wingnuts are calling you out. ROTFLMFAO!
The funny thing is Kerry is not running for anything.
I thought the rightwing nuts had a problem with the Democratic leadership who happen to be Pelosi, Reid, and Dean.
All Democrats have to do is back away from Kerry.
No Republicans in their right mind would pile on Kerry because they would be standing with Bush and have to discuss Iraq in their local election. All elections are local.
Kerry’s gaffe will do nothing to effect this election.
The same number of seats will be lost by the Republicans but they will retain the house and senate by the skin on their chiny, chin, chin.
The Republicans that are losing their seats will be pissed at Bush and that is the biggest liability after Nov. 7th.
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
Hey BostonBarrister…your fellow right wingnuts are calling you out. ROTFLMFAO!
The funny thing is Kerry is not running for anything.
I thought the rightwing nuts had a problem with the Democratic leadership who happen to be Pelosi, Reid, and Dean.
All Democrats have to do is back away from Kerry.
No Republicans in their right mind would pile on Kerry because they would be standing with Bush and have to discuss Iraq in their local election. All elections are local.
Kerry’s gaffe will do nothing to effect this election.
The same number of seats will be lost by the Republicans but they will retain the house and senate by the skin on their chiny, chin, chin.
The Republicans that are losing their seats will be pissed at Bush and that is the biggest liability after Nov. 7th.[/quote]
This post is right on. What Kerry said was dumber than dumb, but it will have little to no effect on up coming elections. The Republicans still don’t want to talk about the war, they want to talk about issues where they have a better chance of winning. Republicans will still lose 3-5 seats but not the majority.
I’m starting to think that Kerry and Bush made a pact at Yale in which Kerry would become a Dem, and ruin the party and Bush would become a Republican and win everything. It sure seems like Kerry is into some sabatoge. He is starting to make Howard Dean look like a polished politician.
[quote]PtrDR wrote:
People that are military like myself and Prof.X among others are anything but uneducated college flunkouts!
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That’s why you should be intelligent enough to realize the joke wasn’t on you. From one vet to another, you are a moron.
Kerry is a moron who couldn’t tell a half decent joke if his life depended on it.
ANY politician would have to be clinically insane to say something that could be insulting to the troops. Regardless he should just shut up and go home to his rich wife.
Did any see the image of the troops from Iraq holding up the sign that went something like “Halp us Senitar Kerry, we are stuk in Iraq?” was pretty funny.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Glad to see Kerry has changed his opinion of the military recently…or not.
http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php
Oh boy, here we have the lying whores again.
Hmmm…calling 250 Swift Boat veterans ‘lying whores’…
…issues? Mental illness?
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How do you call someone who takes money from someone who went AWOL to lie about someone who’s a decorated war veteran to make him look like a coward?
I call them all lying whores.
Because that’s what they are.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
What’s pretty weak is that Bush is all hard broken over the “insult” to his precious troops.
It was an insult, and our troops are precious so fuck off.
He doesn’t seem to care as much when they fly them home in a coffin though.
Again, fuck off. You really think that Bush just shrugs off the death of any soldier?, if so, then you really are an ignorant piece of shit. Too much kool aid for you, you’re cut off.
Why don’t you do yourself a favor, and stick to the politics of your own shithole of a country. You’re in over your head.
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Who’s country is a shithole?
We’re not ones loosing 2 wars at once you know.
What a bunch of fucking sheep you are. Do you guys check in with the DNC every morning for your marching orders? Why help him to spin this, what does he do for you? Kerry said what he meant to say, period. The rest is just spin, it?s bullshit. He said it, he meant it, and he was not talking about Bush. Now you may agree with what he said, but don?t spin it, just come out and say it. Say it loud and proud ?Our military is a bunch of uneducated tyrannical dumbasses?.
Have some fucking balls. If you agree with him just say it. You don?t have to defend him like he?s your child. He?s a politician and a politician is what someone becomes when their life has no further use. I?ll say it again, SHEEP!
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Glad to see Kerry has changed his opinion of the military recently…or not.
http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php
Oh boy, here we have the lying whores again.
Hmmm…calling 250 Swift Boat veterans ‘lying whores’…
…issues? Mental illness?
How do you call someone who takes money from someone who went AWOL to lie about someone who’s a decorated war veteran and makes him look like a coward?
I call them all lying whores.
Because that’s what they are.[/quote]
How many guys signed the letter, saying Kerry was a cumwad?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Glad to see Kerry has changed his opinion of the military recently…or not.
http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php
Oh boy, here we have the lying whores again.
Hmmm…calling 250 Swift Boat veterans ‘lying whores’…
…issues? Mental illness?
How do you call someone who takes money from someone who went AWOL to lie about someone who’s a decorated war veteran and makes him look like a coward?
I call them all lying whores.
Because that’s what they are.
How many guys signed the letter, saying Kerry was a cumwad?
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It doesn’t matter how many signed any letter. You can’t vote on the truth.
One guys dodged the draft joining the Texas air guard and went AWOL there.
The other went to Vietnam and returned a decorated war hero.
Only after he decided to run against the AWOL draftdodger was his record questioned.
There’s probably some hero now in Iraq who will run against Bush’s offspring in the future. We’ll see the same lying whores trying to discredit him.
And THAT’S an insult to the troops.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Germany, more specifically Prussia, has a history of devotion to authoritarianism. German philosophers and historians (Fichte, Hegel, Chamberlain, and so on) created the atmosphere. Of course, they were employed because they expressed the will of German leaders. I suspect the people would have preferred to be simply let alone. Darn that Martin Luther… 
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Actually, Prussia is long gone now Poland and Germans have had a historical tendency of being independent, stubborn and hardheaded idealists.
By the way, Chamberlain? Never heard of him? Maybe you confused something?
[quote]pat36 wrote:
What a bunch of fucking sheep you are. Do you guys check in with the DNC every morning for your marching orders? Why help him to spin this, what does he do for you? Kerry said what he meant to say, period. The rest is just spin, it?s bullshit. He said it, he meant it, and he was not talking about Bush. Now you may agree with what he said, but don?t spin it, just come out and say it. Say it loud and proud ?Our military is a bunch of uneducated tyrannical dumbasses?.
Have some fucking balls. If you agree with him just say it. You don?t have to defend him like he?s your child. He?s a politician and a politician is what someone becomes when their life has no further use. I?ll say it again, SHEEP![/quote]
Pot meet kettle.
[quote]vroom wrote:
To all those that believe the media is biased left… all you have to do is look at how much airtime they give such a minor issue.
That is not a pro-left activity!
However, because it works so well for some of you retards, the republicans are more than happy to blow this widely out of proportion.[/quote]
Or one could note that focusing on this actually works well from the perspective of some of the Democratic candidates who are selling themselves as moderates: they get to denounce Kerry and say, “I think Kerry was wrong, I’m not like those liberal Northeastern Democrats…” See, for example, Harold Ford, Jr. in Tennessee.
Or one could note that focusing on this allows the media to focus on Iraq and ignore the economy.
Or one might note the media’s lack of portrayal of any military reaction to Kerry’s words. I think if one were to recall the Trent Lott gaffe, one might also recall how often those who were potentially offended were interviewed and asked for their perspective on Lott and how his comments reflected Republicans’ views on minorities…
And then again, there’s coverage like this:
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
Hey BostonBarrister…your fellow right wingnuts are calling you out. ROTFLMFAO!
The funny thing is Kerry is not running for anything.
I thought the rightwing nuts had a problem with the Democratic leadership who happen to be Pelosi, Reid, and Dean.
All Democrats have to do is back away from Kerry.
No Republicans in their right mind would pile on Kerry because they would be standing with Bush and have to discuss Iraq in their local election. All elections are local.
Kerry’s gaffe will do nothing to effect this election.
The same number of seats will be lost by the Republicans but they will retain the house and senate by the skin on their chiny, chin, chin.
The Republicans that are losing their seats will be pissed at Bush and that is the biggest liability after Nov. 7th.[/quote]
One positive effect this could have is motivating the Republican base to get to the polls.
However, it’s probably balanced out by keeping the focus on Iraq rather than on the domestic economy – or on asking the Democrats what exactly their platform is.
[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Germany, more specifically Prussia, has a history of devotion to authoritarianism. German philosophers and historians (Fichte, Hegel, Chamberlain, and so on) created the atmosphere. Of course, they were employed because they expressed the will of German leaders. I suspect the people would have preferred to be simply let alone. Darn that Martin Luther…
Actually, Prussia is long gone now Poland and Germans have had a historical tendency of being independent, stubborn and hardheaded idealists.
By the way, Chamberlain? Never heard of him? Maybe you confused something?
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Chamberlain, Houston Stewart Britannica Concise
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Houston Stewart Chamberlain
British-born Germanophile political philosopher, whose advocacy of the racial and cultural superiority of the so-called Aryan element in European culture influenced pan-German and German nationalist thought, particularly Adolf Hitler’s National Socialist movement.
Educated at Versailles, Geneva, and Vienna, Chamberlain became an admirer of Richard Wagner, publishing his first work, Notes sur Lohengrin (?Notes on Lohengrin?), in 1892. An analysis of Wagner’s drama (1892) and a biography (1895) followed. In these publications, Chamberlain emphasized the heroic Teutonic aspects in the composer’s works. In 1899 he published Die Grundlagen des neunzehnten Jahrhunderts (The Foundations of the Nineteenth Century, 2 vol., 1911), a broad but biased analysis of European culture, in which he claimed that the Western Aryan peoples have been responsible for the greatness and creativity of Europe, and that the Jewish influence has been primarily negative. Chamberlain’s theories owed much to the writings of Joseph Arthur, comte de Gobineau, who was the first to claim to prove the superiority of the ?Nordic? race.
Chamberlain’s later works included studies of Kant (1905) and Goethe (1912), various essays defending Germany’s military efforts and aims during World War I, the autobiographical Lebenswege meines Denkens (1919; ?Paths of My Thought?), and Rasse und Pers?nlichkeit (1925; ?Race and Personality?). In 1907 he settled in Bayreuth and married Wagner’s only daughter Eva, his second wife. Remaining in Germany during World War I, Chamberlain received the German Military Cross in 1915 and became naturalized the next year.
“Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.”
Henry Kissinger
[quote]jlesk68 wrote:
“Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.”
Henry Kissinger[/quote]
Sometimes the truth needs to be dressed up a bit before going out in public.
Trent Lott…boo f’ing hoo.
He was thrown under the bus by Karl Rove so that they could get Frist in there.
[quote]jlesk68 wrote:
“Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.”
Henry Kissinger[/quote]
I don’t believe for one second that Henry Kissinger actually said that. He is too smart to say it, even if he thought it.
[quote]Marmadogg wrote:
Trent Lott…boo f’ing hoo.
He was thrown under the bus by Karl Rove so that they could get Frist in there.[/quote]
You’re likely quite right – but that doesn’t relate to my point on the media coverage.