[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Unless otherwise posted, there is no such thing as a minimum speed.[/quote]
Wrong, most states have minimum speed requirements depending on the road and posting isn’t always a requirement, and most states prohibit impeding the reasonable flow of traffic even without a posted minimum limit and you can get a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic.
Also, there are lots of activities that are legal that still make you a douchebag when you do them. [/quote]
So on roads with no sidewalks just how fast should somebody have to walk to avoid being considered an impediment? BTW, you used the word reasonable. Is losing three seconds from your commute unreasonable?
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Making me drive 5 to 15 mph for five miles on 35 to 40 mph roads is unreasonable, especially when it happens with regularity.
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That sounds like an exaggeration. What are they riding? Tricycles? Joggers move faster than that.
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Unless otherwise posted, there is no such thing as a minimum speed.[/quote]
Wrong, most states have minimum speed requirements depending on the road and posting isn’t always a requirement, and most states prohibit impeding the reasonable flow of traffic even without a posted minimum limit and you can get a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic.
Also, there are lots of activities that are legal that still make you a douchebag when you do them. [/quote]
So on roads with no sidewalks just how fast should somebody have to walk to avoid being considered an impediment? BTW, you used the word reasonable. Is losing three seconds from your commute unreasonable?
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Making me drive 5 to 15 mph for five miles on 35 to 40 mph roads is unreasonable, especially when it happens with regularity.
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That sounds like an exaggeration. What are they riding? Tricycles? Joggers move faster than that. [/quote]
[quote]ZJStrope wrote:
Unless otherwise posted, there is no such thing as a minimum speed.[/quote]
Wrong, most states have minimum speed requirements depending on the road and posting isn’t always a requirement, and most states prohibit impeding the reasonable flow of traffic even without a posted minimum limit and you can get a ticket for impeding the flow of traffic.
Also, there are lots of activities that are legal that still make you a douchebag when you do them. [/quote]
So on roads with no sidewalks just how fast should somebody have to walk to avoid being considered an impediment? BTW, you used the word reasonable. Is losing three seconds from your commute unreasonable?
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Making me drive 5 to 15 mph for five miles on 35 to 40 mph roads is unreasonable, especially when it happens with regularity.
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That sounds like an exaggeration. What are they riding? Tricycles? Joggers move faster than that. [/quote]
Whatever. [/quote]
What you don’t believe there are joggers shuffling along at 25 mph?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I honestly don’t understand why it’s legal. We don’t let most dirt bikes on the roads. We don’t let most go-karts on the roads. We don’t let most 4-wheelers on the roads. Why do we let non-motorized bikes on the road? [/quote]
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I honestly don’t understand why it’s legal. We don’t let most dirt bikes on the roads. We don’t let most go-karts on the roads. We don’t let most 4-wheelers on the roads. Why do we let non-motorized bikes on the road? [/quote]
amen[/quote]
The mentioned vehicles are designated Off Road Vehicles, so there’s a reason.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I honestly don’t understand why it’s legal. We don’t let most dirt bikes on the roads. We don’t let most go-karts on the roads. We don’t let most 4-wheelers on the roads. Why do we let non-motorized bikes on the road? [/quote]
amen[/quote]
The mentioned vehicles are designated Off Road Vehicles, so there’s a reason.
If bikes can’t be on roads, where can they be?[/quote]
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I honestly don’t understand why it’s legal. We don’t let most dirt bikes on the roads. We don’t let most go-karts on the roads. We don’t let most 4-wheelers on the roads. Why do we let non-motorized bikes on the road? [/quote]
amen[/quote]
The mentioned vehicles are designated Off Road Vehicles, so there’s a reason.
If bikes can’t be on roads, where can they be?[/quote]
When the word “most” is used before describing something, it’s used to signify that it is not an all encompassing statement. Had he said “all” then your logic would be valid.
How about this, is it safe to ride a motorcycle at 10-15mph on a 35-45mph road?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I honestly don’t understand why it’s legal. We don’t let most dirt bikes on the roads. We don’t let most go-karts on the roads. We don’t let most 4-wheelers on the roads. Why do we let non-motorized bikes on the road? [/quote]
amen[/quote]
The mentioned vehicles are designated Off Road Vehicles, so there’s a reason.
If bikes can’t be on roads, where can they be?[/quote]
When the word “most” is used before describing something, it’s used to signify that it is not an all encompassing statement. Had he said “all” then your logic would be valid.
How about this, is it safe to ride a motorcycle at 10-15mph on a 35-45mph road?
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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I honestly don’t understand why it’s legal. We don’t let most dirt bikes on the roads. We don’t let most go-karts on the roads. We don’t let most 4-wheelers on the roads. Why do we let non-motorized bikes on the road? [/quote]
amen[/quote]
The mentioned vehicles are designated Off Road Vehicles, so there’s a reason.
If bikes can’t be on roads, where can they be?[/quote]
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I honestly don’t understand why it’s legal. We don’t let most dirt bikes on the roads. We don’t let most go-karts on the roads. We don’t let most 4-wheelers on the roads. Why do we let non-motorized bikes on the road? [/quote]
amen[/quote]
The mentioned vehicles are designated Off Road Vehicles, so there’s a reason.
If bikes can’t be on roads, where can they be?[/quote]
When the word “most” is used before describing something, it’s used to signify that it is not an all encompassing statement. Had he said “all” then your logic would be valid.
How about this, is it safe to ride a motorcycle at 10-15mph on a 35-45mph road?
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It should be.
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I should be able to walk through east cleveland and not get mugged. I’m legally allowed to have safe passage on the sidewalks right?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I honestly don’t understand why it’s legal. We don’t let most dirt bikes on the roads. We don’t let most go-karts on the roads. We don’t let most 4-wheelers on the roads. Why do we let non-motorized bikes on the road? [/quote]
amen[/quote]
The mentioned vehicles are designated Off Road Vehicles, so there’s a reason.
If bikes can’t be on roads, where can they be?[/quote]
Where I grew up in Indiana, you could see cyclists a few miles ahead of you. Straight, flat roads make that possible. Driving was pretty easy.
Where I live now in Maine, you simply owe it to yourself and everyone else on the road to be very attentive behind the wheel. Curvy, hilly roads going through woodlands often mean that you can only see a small patch of road in front of you. Compound that with the generally poor condition of the roads (lots of potholes and uneven surfaces) thanks to Maine winter, along with winter conditions themselves and conditions are hardly optimal for safe driving.
Bicyclists, motorcyclists, runners, walkers, four-wheelers, snowmobiles, a car stuck in a snowbank, porcupines, deer, skunks and a FREAKING 1300 POUND MOOSE could come up on you in just seconds on Maine roads. I don’t want to hit any of them with my vehicle. You have to be paying attention.
This is not an isolated case. Here in Miami, cyclists get killed everyday by all these “kings/queens of the road” that wipe their asses with the law and think they can do whatever they want.