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[quote]four60 wrote:
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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
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[quote]Christine wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
So who is to blame Dahmer or his parents?
At what age does an individual become responsible for their actions?[/quote]
You taking notes on analogies from PX?[/quote]
No my question is in regards to individuals who do not have children of their own. They have not watched a child grow from birth to the loss of innocence. As a parent I can see when my children have grown into that age of “adulthood”.
I am not pointing fingers or making judgement in this case, nothing in life is black or white. There are always 3 sides to every story.
So my question is When does the “blame” shift from the Parent to the child? [/quote]
What does this have to do with this thread?
This is truly a Prof. X bait-and-switch.
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Irish maybe, but you and Christine are so quick for judgement and to place blame. So I thought to ask the question.
Before you attack me, again I am just asking a question. I have 5 children ages 20-15 years old.
When they were very young they would get swats on the ass with my hand. I have not spanked my kids since then, I used other forms of punishment. However I could turn you hair grey with the trials and tribulations I have had to go through raising my kids. As a divorced father who had his children 3 days out of 7 every week, and marrying a lady with 3 kids that I have raised.
What age do you no longer blame the parents? When does an individual become responsible for their own actions?
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Hell if no one will answer.
I say the kid is responsible for him/herself when they are able to go out into the world by themselves. I don’t mean getting on a school bus or hanging with friends under some form of supervision. Once a person can go and come with freedom they are taking on an adult function so they then own the weight of that resposiblity.
The question is are people teaching this to a kid by beating that ass all the way out the door. At some point a parent should be teaching a kid how to live as an adult out from the safety of the parents roof.[/quote]
What about when they themselves become a parent? teen pregnancy
What about when they start doing drugs/alcohol? [/quote]
That is the thing isnt it. There is no hard and SET in stone rules on this. If a kid becomes pregnant at 13 they are still a kid but NOW they need to take on some ADULT responsabilities. Its no longer party with friends time. They have to give up what was left of that childhood to grow up. But the parents will and should help them with this. That is a hard thing for any FAMILY to go thru.
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Its funny 460 I was a 17 year old father, my daughter is a 17 year old mother, my mom was a 17 year old mother. All with different experiences in life and parenting all with the same result.
Also the state of Texas does not recognize a 17 year old mother as being an adult. I still have to pay child support to my X wife.
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That is Legality can’t do much about the LAW on that subject. But hey shit does happen. My mom was married at 17. My oldest brother was married at 18. His oldest son is in his 30’s and has no plans on every having kids but who knows. Shit happens.
The thing I can only speak on my side. Was my mom was expected to get married young and start a family becuase that is what her mother did and so on. My brother did becuase he thought that is what men do when they are ready to grow up. His son had more options with not just his dad view point but the view of 4 other uncles. At some point the cycle does and can break.