Hi, I made this thread because i want to share a belief of mine that I think many of you will relate to. I’m not a big steroid user i’ve done one real cycle in my life and it was 500mg/week of test enanthate. I noticed something that let me to formulate a theory. When I started injecting testosterone, I started noticing that women seemed to be more attracted by me as if their body somehow senses a male with higher testosterone levels.
I’ve heard the same story from other guys i’ve talked to, yet, if i’m not mistaken, science hasn’t approved this theory yet… Some people might say, well you looked more muscular on roids that’s why. The fact of the matter is, even before I ever gained a pound, I was already starting to see more attention from the opposite sex in the first weeks of my cycle. I would walk in a corridor at the mall and would get hit on a lot more often. But this behavioral response from others towards me didn’t stop with the women being more attracted.
I also noticed that somehow, people, be it men or women, seemed to have a lot more respect for me than usual. Their attitude was as if they considered me to be a big shot.
I’m not on roids right now and lately I get this feeling that my test levels might be low, i just don’t have the kind of energy and mood that I used to. Oddly enough, people lately seem to have a negative attitude towards me. I feel like they are more often disrespectful towards me. I seem to be unable to attract girls the way I used to lately. I think all this has to do with testosterone levels.
To sum up everything I said: I really think that testosterone levels influence the attitude, perception and behavior of others towards you.
I want to know if someone else here has had similar experiences.
Can be a lot of factors. How you carry yourself is a big thing, when your on androgens perhaps you feel more confident which would be attractive to lots of women. Could be pheromones that are accentuated/amplified by the increased test.
Yes it’s very real. If you think that’s somethin, order the red Tmuscle shirt and watch what happens. The chicks on my campus went nuts when I’d sport it last quarter. I was on a PH cycle and gained about 15 solid pounds and it’s still holding.
[quote]OTS1 wrote:
Really? I mean… are you sure that you’re not just confident and aggressive now that you’re on?
Westclock: do you have a study or journal article to point me at here? I’d be intrigued![/quote]
To be honest I pretty much act the same on as off. Im more confident and aggressive on, but its not INCREDIBLY significant.
Girls have always liked how I smell, even before cycling.
In high school I would shower and wear some speed stick after practice and girls would tell me I smelled really good. My natural test production was likely quite high in puberty I would assume as my levels are quite above average according to blood work now.
(although to be fair, what is considered “average” is low in our opinions)
They LOVE how I smell on cycle, its noticeably more attention, girls steal my clothing more often.
I could dig up some articles on it, but a quick google search would likely result in a myriad of studies for you.
Girls steal guy’s clothes because they like the metabolites, they like the essence, thats why they steal your favorite things, you wear them the most and therefor they smell the best.
[quote]mls_fan wrote:
I’m not on roids right now and lately I get this feeling that my test levels might be low, i just don’t have the kind of energy and mood that I used to. Oddly enough, people lately seem to have a negative attitude towards me. I feel like they are more often disrespectful towards me. I seem to be unable to attract girls the way I used to lately. I think all this has to do with testosterone levels.[/quote]
Ah yes, exogenous test can be a slippery slope indeed.
As for the original topic, it’s undoubtedly true. I suspect it’s what Westclock mentioned, ie. elevated test = elevated pheromone production.
[quote]mls_fan wrote:
I’m not on roids right now and lately I get this feeling that my test levels might be low, i just don’t have the kind of energy and mood that I used to. Oddly enough, people lately seem to have a negative attitude towards me. I feel like they are more often disrespectful towards me. I seem to be unable to attract girls the way I used to lately. I think all this has to do with testosterone levels.[/quote]
Ah yes, exogenous test can be a slippery slope indeed.
As for the original topic, it’s undoubtedly true. I suspect it’s what Westclock mentioned, ie. elevated test = elevated pheromone production.[/quote]
Another HUGE factor is that women can very easily and accurately smell when men are under duress.
Its a defensive mechanism stressed males always indicate danger, either from that male, or from whatever is stressing the male.
Ive heard it described as a distinct odor by the girls I have asked.
On cycle, cortisol is suppressed hard by the androgens, you stay calm and happy even when the shit is popping off around you.
[quote]mls_fan wrote:
I’m not on roids right now and lately I get this feeling that my test levels might be low, i just don’t have the kind of energy and mood that I used to. Oddly enough, people lately seem to have a negative attitude towards me. I feel like they are more often disrespectful towards me. I seem to be unable to attract girls the way I used to lately. I think all this has to do with testosterone levels.[/quote]
Ah yes, exogenous test can be a slippery slope indeed.
As for the original topic, it’s undoubtedly true. I suspect it’s what Westclock mentioned, ie. elevated test = elevated pheromone production.[/quote]
On cycle, cortisol is suppressed hard by the androgens, you stay calm and happy even when the shit is popping off around you.
You don’t stress out easily on cycle.
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+1
The higher my test dose, the more attention and smiles I get from women and the ability to stay calm under stress is extremely good…and the happier I am.
There is a limit though with doses where sides become not worth it, mood suffers and aggression seems to exponentially increase.
I choose to stay a couple of hundred miligrams below below that threshold.
Its hard to believe anything about pheromones or women ‘scenting’ when men are under duress without some kind of citation. Why? Because it could all easily be explained just through the way people carry themselves. Just like people shoot AAS the first time, say test e, and go to the gym and jump up 20% in their weights. If your mind can make you lift 20% more than yesterday, it can certainly alter the way a few women look at you.