Testosterone Shirt Reactions

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Anonymity wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
Why do people go so crazy about a fucking logbook?

Is your memory so terrible that you can’t remember what you did 5-7 days ago?

Some people use more advanced programs where not everything is dont in just straight sets and everything is easily memorized.

Why do you care so much if other people have logbooks anyways?

Maybe you’re not applying yourself as much as you could be?

For the record, I see very few (as in none) huge guys walking around with log books. It is always the smaller dudes. I also don’t see many of those smaller dudes turn into huge guys years later. I am not saying no huge guys exist who use log books, but I am saying that most of the people using them with the belief that they are somehow applying themselves more as a result may be dead wrong.

I train by feel, not some equation. What good is that .25lbs increase if you could have really gotten another 10lbs had you quit focusing on the minor shit?

Just a question.

In the past 6 months I’ve started keeping track of my workouts for the first time. I just write down the top sets of the biggest lift I do for a muscle group. I think it has made me push myself more than I used to in the past. But writing down every single set of every exercise is definitely unnecessary. A single sheet of paper works for me.
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Me too, a single sheet of paper to write down what i did on my max sets, then do more the next time.

I dont think im applying myself more than anyone else by keeping track of what im doing, its just to keep me focused on pushing more weight all the time…

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Anonymity wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
Why do people go so crazy about a fucking logbook?

Is your memory so terrible that you can’t remember what you did 5-7 days ago?

Some people use more advanced programs where not everything is dont in just straight sets and everything is easily memorized.

Why do you care so much if other people have logbooks anyways?

Maybe you’re not applying yourself as much as you could be?

For the record, I see very few (as in none) huge guys walking around with log books. It is always the smaller dudes. I also don’t see many of those smaller dudes turn into huge guys years later. I am not saying no huge guys exist who use log books, but I am saying that most of the people using them with the belief that they are somehow applying themselves more as a result may be dead wrong.

I train by feel, not some equation. What good is that .25lbs increase if you could have really gotten another 10lbs had you quit focusing on the minor shit?

Just a question.[/quote]

The reason I actually like to have a training log is because it gives me a goal to strive for on paper. Not that I don’t have the goal in my head. It helps me personally when i can see my goal which gives me a little extra direction and effort to accomplish my goal. It’s not that I really need to track every .25 lb increase. Anyways to each thier own.

Anyways there are big guys who do have training logs so I wouldn’t completely dimiss it as totally uselss.

Edit: Wow I just realized this thread is named “Testosterone Shirt Reactions” /hijack

i use a logbook on and off

if you’ve never seen a big guy use a logbook you may want to head over to any powerlifting gym.

[quote]GetTheHIT wrote:
GetTheHIT wrote:
I saw someone wearing one of the “T” shirts couple weeks ago at a MD DMV, who was that?

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I doubt I wore mine there, but which location. A month or so ago I was at the one in Annapolis

why the fuck are we talkin about logbooks?

[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
I’ll get a Testosterone Shirt when I’m big enough that everyone just assumes I’m on steroids. I’ve got a little ways to go.[/quote]

this

I remember this thread. These were the days where everyone hated Live and he got no respect. He’d say some shit that normally people wouldn’t disagree with but because it was him he got a shitstorm of people calling him retarded. Good times.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
I remember this thread. These were the days where everyone hated Live and he got no respect. He’d say some shit that normally people wouldn’t disagree with but because it was him he got a shitstorm of people calling him retarded. Good times.[/quote]

yeah wtf did i do to make everyone like me?

weird =/

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Anonymity wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
Why do people go so crazy about a fucking logbook?

Is your memory so terrible that you can’t remember what you did 5-7 days ago?

Some people use more advanced programs where not everything is dont in just straight sets and everything is easily memorized.

Why do you care so much if other people have logbooks anyways?

Maybe you’re not applying yourself as much as you could be?

For the record, I see very few (as in none) huge guys walking around with log books. It is always the smaller dudes. I also don’t see many of those smaller dudes turn into huge guys years later. I am not saying no huge guys exist who use log books, but I am saying that most of the people using them with the belief that they are somehow applying themselves more as a result may be dead wrong.

I train by feel, not some equation. What good is that .25lbs increase if you could have really gotten another 10lbs had you quit focusing on the minor shit?

Just a question.[/quote]

FTR, I can’t remember what I did 5-7 minutes ago at times never mind 5-7 days ago. Maybe it’s a function of age. Maybe some of us have a lot of shit going on and can’t be bothered cluttering up our brains with stuff that can be written down.

I write it down because I’m usually peaking for some meet or other and there is a plan in place.

Who cares what someone else does?

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

Who cares what someone else does? [/quote]

If they happen to be someone who has made more progress than me, I do. I care very much about what people who have reached the goal I am after do in the gym and outside of the gym in the kitchen. That is why I made that observation. This is not the same as worrying about what kind of clothes someone has on. I am going to look for trends of success. I always have and always will.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:

Who cares what someone else does?

If they happen to be someone who has made more progress than me, I do. I care very much about what people who have reached the goal I am after do in the gym and outside of the gym in the kitchen. That is why I made that observation. This is not the same as worrying about what kind of clothes someone has on. I am going to look for trends of success. I always have and always will.[/quote]

That’s fair enough. Since I’m making good progress myself, I’ll keep doing what I’m doing since it works for me. I’ll change it when it doesn’t. Part of my log book is being able to look back on that progress. I don’t assume what works for someone else will work for me. It isn’t just about progress though, it’s about personal preference. I’ve always liked tracking numbers over time. Not everyone gets a kick out of it.

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:

Who cares what someone else does?

If they happen to be someone who has made more progress than me, I do. I care very much about what people who have reached the goal I am after do in the gym and outside of the gym in the kitchen. That is why I made that observation. This is not the same as worrying about what kind of clothes someone has on. I am going to look for trends of success. I always have and always will.

That’s fair enough. Since I’m making good progress myself, I’ll keep doing what I’m doing since it works for me. I’ll change it when it doesn’t. Part of my log book is being able to look back on that progress. I don’t assume what works for someone else will work for me. It isn’t just about progress though, it’s about personal preference. I’ve always liked tracking numbers over time. Not everyone gets a kick out of it.[/quote]

Do what works for you. I just know that none of the people I personally look up to worry about one…for one, once you get to the upper limits of strength, your weights are NOT going to be increasing so drastically from workout to workout that you would be lost as to what you did last. If I am pushing myself hard enough, then I know that regardless of the reps or sets I did last time, I gave it all I have.

Beginners should be seeing much greater progress over time. No advanced trainer who is benching 500lbs is going to expect to go up 20lbs every workout. They may work on better form or even great reps if possible, but they understand that gains slow down the closer you get to some extreme strength level.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
Professor X wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:

Who cares what someone else does?

If they happen to be someone who has made more progress than me, I do. I care very much about what people who have reached the goal I am after do in the gym and outside of the gym in the kitchen. That is why I made that observation. This is not the same as worrying about what kind of clothes someone has on. I am going to look for trends of success. I always have and always will.

That’s fair enough. Since I’m making good progress myself, I’ll keep doing what I’m doing since it works for me. I’ll change it when it doesn’t. Part of my log book is being able to look back on that progress. I don’t assume what works for someone else will work for me. It isn’t just about progress though, it’s about personal preference. I’ve always liked tracking numbers over time. Not everyone gets a kick out of it.

Do what works for you. I just know that none of the people I personally look up to worry about one…for one, once you get to the upper limits of strength, your weights are NOT going to be increasing so drastically from workout to workout that you would be lost as to what you did last. If I am pushing myself hard enough, then I know that regardless of the reps or sets I did last time, I gave it all I have.

Beginners should be seeing much greater progress over time. No advanced trainer who is benching 500lbs is going to expect to go up 20lbs every workout. They may work on better form or even great reps if possible, but they understand that gains slow down the closer you get to some extreme strength level.[/quote]

That’s true as far as gains go. I look at it differently because I’m training to hit peak strength on a given date. I don’t give it all I have every workout in the same way that you would because of that.

I write it down because there are a ton of variables such as: did I train raw, did I use gear, if so, what gear was it? Was it a good cycle? How did I get there? Sets, reps and weights can effect how well I peak and for the life of me, I can’t remember all the details. I’m too old :slight_smile:

On topic: I don’t think their shirts would be small enough for me but if someone could send one to check it out, I’d really appreciate it.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Anonymity wrote:
Goodfellow wrote:
Why do people go so crazy about a fucking logbook?

Is your memory so terrible that you can’t remember what you did 5-7 days ago?

Some people use more advanced programs where not everything is dont in just straight sets and everything is easily memorized.

Why do you care so much if other people have logbooks anyways?

Maybe you’re not applying yourself as much as you could be?

For the record, I see very few (as in none) huge guys walking around with log books. It is always the smaller dudes. I also don’t see many of those smaller dudes turn into huge guys years later. I am not saying no huge guys exist who use log books, but I am saying that most of the people using them with the belief that they are somehow applying themselves more as a result may be dead wrong.

I train by feel, not some equation. What good is that .25lbs increase if you could have really gotten another 10lbs had you quit focusing on the minor shit?

Just a question.[/quote]

I don’t know, it seems like the strongest guys I’ve seen always have a log book of some sort. I’ve seen plenty of big guys as you’ve mentioned with no log books, but nearly everyone who had impressive strength relative to size walks around with a log book. So if your goal is strength and success leaves clues, keeping a log appears to be the thing to do.

Seems to go all the way up to the top level, too. All the guys over at elite seem to keep regular logs, and there are tons of powerlifters who keep logs on this forum or another.

I saw some guy at my gym with a Testosterone shirt today, I had no idea anyone else from this site was from around my area, the only other Ohio dudes I know of are the ones in Columbus or Cincy =o.

One of the guys that I lived in Italy with for my study abroad program had a Testosterone shirt. I was really shocked. Especially since he didn’t train legs and rarely ate meat.

Anyone that’s grown out of a Medium want to mail me theirs? :slight_smile:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I want to wear a shirt that says, “I use a logbook.”[/quote]

that’d be classic. except i think maybe 1/100 people would actually get it.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I want to wear a shirt that says, “I use a logbook.”[/quote]

That’d be super hardcore. I bet those shirts would come small enough. In small type on the back it could say “then I graph it all on excel”.

Too bad I actually do that :slight_smile: