Testing HCG and Test E for Reactions/Allergies

So regarding my forth coming appointment with the doctor to discuss whether I will need TRT or nor or whether we can try something else, I’ve decided to only test how I will react to the substances so to give him a feedback.

I did one HCG injection(500 UI) and one testosterone injection(75mg enanthate) and that’s it, no more until claryfying the plan with the doctor. I WANTED TO TEST THE SUBSTANCES FOR SEVERE IMMEDIATE REACTIONS, ALLERGIES AND WHATEVER AND GIVE THIS FEEDBACK TO THE DOCTOR.. Normally I’m allergic to a lot of stuff. I’m pretty sure only 2 injections will not shut me down in any way.

Many people say they do not feel anything from first injection. Many people say they DO. Well me being hyper sensitive to everything felt. I’m pretty sure its not a placebo effect I can feel and observe my body pretty well.

So this is my observations:

When I injected HCG Saturday 7-8 hours later I started to experience severe drop in energy and concentration, otherwise I felt bad. My libido and erection quality however INCREASED.

Yesterday I did the testosterone injection. First of all I woke very early because I went to the house of a friend of mine who is doing TRT before work. I was destroyed by this early waking and normally in such a day I would be sleepy and extremely low energy all day.

3-4 hours after the injection I started to feel energy rush. My thought became very clear but I also started to experience anxiety and nervousness that led to poor concentration throughout the day. I was no more sleepy even a bit, it was like I’ve drank 10 redbulls. Evening time I went to the gym and I was feeling very powerful, did all reps with very small intervals in between and I did not felt any fatigue! I’ve never felt like that in the gym, NEVER! Also I felt increased libido. However I noticed my erection quality was severely DECREASED. Really bad. Have no idea why.

This morning I feel a lot more energy but also anxiety.

I know one injection DOES NOT MEAN A LOT, I know to get optimized you need to have steady blood levels.

But still what are your THOUGHTS ON THIS?

You are just screwing your natty numbers up so the doc won’t have clue what to do with you.
Why would you do this? You are just fucking around. Get serious or go home.

Im screwing nothing man, the blood tests are already done last week.

To be honest, I think you are mistaking an inept “oneness” with your feelings of being in tune with your body with a severe neurological problem.

The only thing you could have possibly noticed from a Test E injection within 24 hours is an allergic reaction. The drug just doesn’t work that way man. Sorry.

I know that nobody will convince you otherwise, but if you truly understood how the absorption of Test works when injecting, then you would know that you would notice no difference at all for at least 48 hours or so.

The only other possibility would be that you mistakingly injected intravenously, which would have probably resulted in a trip to the emergency room.

I believe that you have “psyched” yourself up, and it’s most likely that you are experiencing the effects of adrenaline, but this was probably a good test to do on yourself. With this type of reaction, whether it be physical or mental, you know that you’re probably in for a very hard road with TRT, at least in the beginning until you can get your anxiety under control.

Well I’m pretty I’m not imagining it and I know my body.

I know the peak of the enanthate is 24-48 hours after the injection, but it doesn’t mean it is not started do be absorbed much earlier. Is it adrenaline or something else or some reaction to the oil - I’m not sure. But for sure its not just in my head and yes NOBODY can convince me otherwise.

I can dig out a lot of opinions here on people saying they start to feel better from the first injection. Is it all in their head? I can bet a 1000 dollars not.

And what about HCG? People say they feel it after a few hours.

p.s. I have injected it SubQ

Which would result in a slightly slower absorption rate…

I apologize if my post wasn’t the type of thoughts you were looking for.

I respect your opinion but I do not fully agree with it.

And yes Im also clueless and want to analyze this data so thats why I post the thread.

I appreciate that and you are free to agree to or disagree. My post are just opinions as you stated.

One more thing to add, for the purpose of data analysis, enanthate actually peaks at around 72 hours I believe.

Why they say 24-48?

I was also interested how much it can build in my system since HPTA is not shit down and I imagine it will be added.

Also what could adrenaline reaction be normally?

I think the 24-48 hours is minimum time for noticeable affect. I am no dr and always reserve the right to be wrong. My understanding is that the half life is 7-9 days. Peak levels at around 72 hours and a controlled decrease thereafter.

Adrenaline is the body’s reaction to elevated cortisol (the stress hormone). When you psyche yourself up, or experience what your brain perceived as sudden trauma (imagined or real), the body releases cortisol. It’s a fight or flight mechanism.

The reaction to that is the release of adrenaline to control and regulate the spike in cortisol, which can bring an immediate feeling of power and clarity. These releases happen fairly quickly and can be felt within minutes to hours of the event.

Think about the stages of how you react when experiencing a vehicle accident. There’s an immediate “oh shit” moment of absolute fear and panic, followed by an adrenaline surge that is so powerful that people have been noted to have remarkable increases in strength during this stage (think mothers lifting a heavy object off of their trapped baby).

This adrenaline surge is also responsible for pain suppression which ties hand in hand to that moment of clarity. Think about the guy who gets out of a car after an accident and is walking around even though he has a broken back.

Then last phase of that is the hormonal crash. Depending on the severity of the trauma (again imagined or real), this process can happen over the span of minutes or hours.

Is it possible to experience so much strength at the gym from adrenaline?

I guess there is some logic in this.

So that short after injection I cannot experience testosterone in any way possible?

To be honest I was not stressed due to that injection, but more of a curious and the HCG caused totally different reaction.

Absolutely.

I’m not saying that your levels did not increase whatsoever in that amount of time. What I’m saying is that you would not have been able to benefit (or significantly notice the effect) from the small increase in that amount of time.

Ironically, we typically do not “feel” stress or anxiety in the moment that it is actually happening. What we typically notice is the effects of that stress, which happen after the fact. The tension in the muscles or headaches, etc… We feel the REACTION to stress in our bodies.

The reaction in our bodies to adrenaline is very quick. The reaction to testosterone…not so much.

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Well that may explain the weak dick :smiley:

If so even today I feel it a bit, stress adrenaline or whatever.

And what do you think about the HCG reaction?

I mean it was not with this adrenaline symptoms

I’m not sure on that one. HCG mimics LH, which not only stimulates the testicles to produce more testosterone, but has also been shown in some studies to promote healthy adrenal function. Based on that, I would assume it’s possible that the HCG stimulated the adrenal gland.

It’s also possible that you could have noticed a small increase in testosterone levels because the testicles are releasing the hormone directly into the blood stream, and not having to be absorbed over time through secondary blood vessels the way it does with exogenous testosterone.

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Yes, I know just a lot of people report to feel terrible on in.

Also I’ve read people reporting to feel effects from it a few hours after taking it - like improved libido or bad effects

So seems at least for that one its not my imagination or cortisol reaction