[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Kickbacks-3X10-12
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Oh Tony that makes me so sad 
I’ll admit I did some kickbacks before myself… when Reagan was president…and I was in eighth grade.
Just messing with ya Tone, but not really
[quote]sapasion wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Kickbacks-3X10-12
Oh Tony that makes me so sad
I’ll admit I did some kickbacks before myself… when Reagan was president…and I was in eighth grade.
Just messing with ya Tone, but not really ;)[/quote]
Well it’s not surprising as you are more into powerlifting. But kickbacks done strictly, are a pretty good tool in the shed for carving out the tri’s and adding some volume/intensity. I like to hold them there, which you don’t usually see anyone doing in the “gyms” around these days. Usually you see the guys upper arm moving all over the place, and a pathetic .oooo1 second “hold”, lol.
They’re not really conduscive to heavier training but they’re not bad in higher rep range and strict form.
My tri’s can kick some ass. Nice to have at least one part that will fuck some fools up…lol.
Hey what do you think about the tube curls/oh extensions?
Those look sissy to you too? Give em a try and you’ll burn the fuck out of both body parts between reps 12-20, I guarantee that. They’re nice to throw in at the end.
Glad you’re coming around to all the bodybuilding stuff finally now big guy, ha, haaa!
See ya!
EDIT POST:
Credit is due to Herr Schwarzenegger for the routine.
The result of my “tweaking” it for myself, was a bastardized version utilizing some things from the last one he made me for my initial dual delt rehab, and this latest one with a very interesting set/rep fluctuating scheme, with a very interesting Saturday wkout. Anyway I messed around with the two and came up with this bastardized version ala Tone. I am going to see the doc today or tomorrow about this left delt. It’s not going to be something I can fix, let’s face it. Oh well…
I will have the top squat very soon, and will be jamming away at this hybrid, unless I’m directed sternly not to do anything with that delt, then I’ll drop things down even more. Hopefully that won’t happen though.
TBN
Well Tone, whatever you’re doing it’s working for you. Your 18" arms are as big as mine and I’m 40 lbs. heavier than you. Makes me think I should actually start properly training them (instead of just adding a set or two of curls at the end of my workouts).
What are tube curls?
Jelly
[quote]Jelly Roll wrote:
Well Tone, whatever you’re doing it’s working for you. Your 18" arms are as big as mine and I’m 40 lbs. heavier than you. Makes me think I should actually start properly training them (instead of just adding a set or two of curls at the end of my workouts).
What are tube curls?
Jelly [/quote]
Another interesting exercise ala the “Rubberband syndrome”. Actually they are rubber tubes with attached handles, very like the bands but tubular in shape.
I will wrap the tube around a low lying object, part of dip/pullup station, etc, and get them even on each side, pull up into an overhead tri extension position, nail out 2 or 3 sets of 20 with that, and then shred down on another set of tube curls, same object and low center of gravity on tube, and just step out until desired tension on arms hanging straight. Now step out a bit further, lol, and start curling to 20 reps. Curl up, hold and contract hard, release until straight armed, keeping upper arm fixed of course. These also, will feel ridiculous until you get up into double digit reps, and then they will literally scream obscenities at you, lol.
I usually do them seperate or supersetted depending on if I’m working both or just one or the other,(bi,tri).
Talk about a trememdous pump at the end of an upper arm wkout. Very effective.
Ha well I don’t think the arms are sitting at 18" as we sit here, hold on…can’t find it, they’re probably at around 17.25 - 17.5 probably. I’ve laid down and been flustered the last few days/week…
Anyway, hope you can get your hands on some of those tubes, they are worth the small price. Hope all is well Jelly.
ToneBone
I edited above post about the delt condition also.
Tone, sucks that the shoulder started hurting again after that last training cycle. The program I gave you assumed you had fully (or mostly) recovered, but shit happens. Hopefully the shoulder doesn’t require surgery, but as you said, that’s life. You’ve still got plenty of years in you so taking some time off for that wouldn’t be such a big deal.
You’ve got some pretty good arm size. You have STILL not sent me updated pic. Did you even take any after that last round of training?
Are you still going to run the supplements since the shoulder is giving you trouble?
Good stuff tone
Those tube things do sound interesting. I do do both band pushdowns as well as band incline extensions for my tris on my speed bench days. Nothing sissy about band stuff.
I have long maintained that triceps are one of the most important muscles we got. Shoot for bench its #1 without a doubt.
Truth be told I don’t do much pump training. My band pushdowns are high rep but those are as much elbow-savers for me as they are for my tris. I don’t get a big pump from 550lb pin press/rack lockouts but I do get hella strong tris.
[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
Tone, sucks that the shoulder started hurting again after that last training cycle. The program I gave you assumed you had fully (or mostly) recovered, but shit happens. Hopefully the shoulder doesn’t require surgery, but as you said, that’s life. You’ve still got plenty of years in you so taking some time off for that wouldn’t be such a big deal.
You’ve got some pretty good arm size. You have STILL not sent me updated pic. Did you even take any after that last round of training?
Are you still going to run the supplements since the shoulder is giving you trouble?[/quote]
Hey buddy,
Yeah I was surprised that it took a shit. Initially the left just had some acute pain at the clavicle/delt junction, then I remember one day when it was feeling a bit off, and I went ahead with some +50lb dipping, which exasberated the problem. So now its in two difft areas.
Acute at the aforementioned, and then there is a throbbing come and go deeper pain at the lateral/posterior side of it as well. I just made it worse again when I tried the basic mobility ROM stuff from the video I showed you, and so I’m going in today at 2:30 for a look-see with my doc.
The right delt is doing pretty good. In hindsight, I probably should have not went at the intensity as much as I did, but should have just worked it from a volume perspective and such. I learned another lesson the hard way.
No new pics sorry. And I did a week of the drol/win, and am going to stop as of right now to see what’s going on first.
I may still run the supps, I need to see how mobile/immobile I’m going to be in the immediate future. Hopefully I can get the ball rolling quickly on the diagnosis today or soon.
Thanks for stoppin by buddy. It’s good to see you around.
ToneBone
[quote]sapasion wrote:
Good stuff tone
Those tube things do sound interesting. I do do both band pushdowns as well as band incline extensions for my tris on my speed bench days. Nothing sissy about band stuff.
I have long maintained that triceps are one of the most important muscles we got. Shoot for bench its #1 without a doubt.
Truth be told I don’t do much pump training. My band pushdowns are high rep but those are as much elbow-savers for me as they are for my tris. I don’t get a big pump from 550lb pin press/rack lockouts but I do get hella strong tris.[/quote]
Excellent stuff Saps. Quite the pin press too, lol.
I really hope this delt gets fixed up here for me.
ToneBone
I have ADD, Tone (not really). You get long winded and I start thinking about sex or picking my nose or some other nonsensical thing whilst looking for the meat (results) of your posts.
Would you please just list some concise numbers of gains you’ve made, either weekly or whatever. Like this:
Weight up xxx pounds since dd/mm/yyyy
bench up xxx pounds since dd/mm/yyyy
squat up xxx pounds since dd/mm/yyyy
dead lift up xxx pounds since dd/mm/yyyy
All the other stuff is gravy, and merely accentuates the big lifts.
Oh, and triceps kickbacks?!? LOL
[quote]kroby wrote:
I have ADD, Tone (not really). You get long winded and I start thinking about sex or picking my nose or some other nonsensical thing whilst looking for the meat (results) of your posts.
Would you please just list some concise numbers of gains you’ve made, either weekly or whatever. Like this:
Weight up xxx pounds since dd/mm/yyyy
bench up xxx pounds since dd/mm/yyyy
squat up xxx pounds since dd/mm/yyyy
dead lift up xxx pounds since dd/mm/yyyy
All the other stuff is gravy, and merely accentuates the big lifts.
Oh, and triceps kickbacks?!? LOL[/quote]
Kroby,
Wtf are you talking about man?
My delt is afu right now, and I haven’t even started the cycle that’s going to be on this log dude. I was indicating the weight I was using when I fucked my delt up significantly, just so people could see what kind of progress I had made to that point. I had/have, a whole log about the progress a while back, you were hit and miss around here at that time I believe. So why would I list numbers right now? I’m just confused to your post. And yeah what about the kickbacks? Is this an exercise that you don’t think is effective for tricep development or just exactly what is it?
They compliment other exercises, if you think lying tri extensions and pulldowns are also too feminine, please let me and everyone else know so I can stop doing all these girly things that make you laugh.
In case you can’t tell, that post is irritating to me at the moment.
Whoh, what happened to the shoulder? I thought you had it pretty much under wraps injury wise. Did you do something in particular that caused it to add up?
Maybe you mentioned this but I might have missed it.
[quote]MrZsasz wrote:
Whoh, what happened to the shoulder? I thought you had it pretty much under wraps injury wise. Did you do something in particular that caused it to add up?
Maybe you mentioned this but I might have missed it.[/quote]
Yeah big Z,
I was just talking to Kroby about that. I indicated the last session of very deep dips where I was using +50lbs/sets of 6-8, on the belt, my delt was already feeling inflamed, and I went ahead and tried to get through my dips, and that was the icing on the proverbial cake for it. I went too fast again, even though I had purposely gone nice and slow during that first rehab on them both a while back as you may remember. That’s the only reason I put the weight up, so you all can see that it was in fair condition leading up to that time, albeit obviously not that day.
Kroby:
I didn’t mean to go off on you Kroby, but fuck man, I did an extensive and detailed log of every fucking exercise, weight, set, and reps for a few months straight, and I’ll even go so far as to say it was fairly impressive to myself and a few other people. So give me a break man.
By the way, while we’re on the subject, where exactly is your log full of detailed weight/sets/reps from the last few years?
I’ve done probably too many logs over the past couple years here.
Rant over
ToneBone.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
I didn’t mean to go off on you Kroby, but fuck man, I did an extensive and detailed log of every fucking exercise, weight, set, and reps for a few months straight, and I’ll even go so far as to say it was fairly impressive to myself and a few other people. So give me a break man.
By the way, while we’re on the subject, where exactly is your log full of detailed weight/sets/reps from the last few years?
I’ve done probably too many logs over the past couple years here.
Rant over
ToneBone.
[/quote]
It’s okay, Tonebone. I got thick skin. I didn’t say anything out of spite or meanness.
The point was that you do make detailed logs, dude. And I can’t make any sense out of them. I get lost. If you’d just post a conclusion…
As for my detailed log… I have them starting April 22, 2006. You want me to photocopy it and enter it in as evidence? Ask me any day, and I’ll tell you exactly what I did.
I read the title of this thread. Test/tren Multiple Log Throwdown. I thought to myself Hm. That sounds interesting. Let me take a look. Where do I read how your body reacts to the mix? Tren is known for it’s strength. I wanted to read about how much your lifts were going up. There’s so much detail, I got lost.
You think I was calling you out? I’m asking you to dumb it down! And you get pissed at me? wtf?
Sounds like your skin isn’t that thick after all to me.
I don’t give a fuck then. You want to say I’m calling you out? Whatever. I said what was on my mind at the time.
You’re just basicly coming in here, and you’re not on the compounds listed, but you’re just here to tell me this and that right?
You didn’t even say I see your point Tone, So what about my logs then, there have been plenty, and as you said already they don’t do much for you, since you have to “weed out” the good stuff from them. Don’t get all up on me now, I said what I said wasn’t personal and I treat you fair. I’ll write my logs the way I want to write the mother fuckers, and if they suck then fuck it.
If you had read the thing carefully you would know that we’re just starting this by posting start dates and other boring shit. Details? Details? What is it that you don’t like about this thread? It hasn’t officially started ok, sorry if that bugs you or other people.
Done with this.
Wow.
Good luck, Tone.
[quote]kroby wrote:
Wow.
Good luck, Tone.[/quote]
Ok, I’ll give you props for that one.
TBN
Now has everyone taken their Pamprin and is all calmed down here ladies?
We don’t this petty bickering and bullshit, let’s focus on the matter at hand.
And if something is too detailed for your liking Kroby, then I suggest you read faster.
Tone, your logs are excellent. Period. Although, I can understand that some people don’t enjoy all the juicy details in the same manner that we do.
Everybody pull your skirts down and let’s get back on track.
World
[quote]World1187 wrote:
Now has everyone taken their Pamprin and is all calmed down here ladies?
We don’t this petty bickering and bullshit, let’s focus on the matter at hand.
And if something is too detailed for your liking Kroby, then I suggest you read faster.
Tone, your logs are excellent. Period. Although, I can understand that some people don’t enjoy all the juicy details in the same manner that we do.
Everybody pull your skirts down and let’s get back on track.
World[/quote]
Yeah I get his point, but the big picture is that I started the thread, and if there’s a style to it, well I’m not changing it. That’s me, and that’s how I post. It might not be the way you like it. No shit. You don’t have to read it.
I have stated that the cycle hasn’t started, and why would I be listing stats in an interim period when I never said I would? When I asked Krobz about where his shit/log was, he had an answer about it right quick, and defensive sounding. Well, yeah, that’s how I felt too.
Bottom line is the post didn’t make sense to the material that’s been gone over in this thread. I don’t feel I need to explain it beyond that.
Put yourselves in my shoes, and tell me, am I a dick, or am I justified in my rant for feeling a little peaved?
If the vote comes out that I’m a dick, well I guess I’ll eat my shorts then. Have at it.
I’ll stand accountable for being a cranky old bitch at this time Kroby.
I learned that my threads suck. I will no longer post.
MWAHAHAHAHAAAA!
Really though, I apologize and didn’t mean to be a cock about it, just a bit edgy today and been through the ringer lately, there’s no excuse to have been so prickish I’ll admit. Hopefully you will accept my apology and prior rant galore.
Later Kroby.
mmm mmm good. myself loves details and plenty of them. a log without details is like gettin fucked with no reach around…wait…that sounds wrong… um well lets just say its not good and leave it at that. Please proceed keeper of the holy grail camaro 