[quote]sawadeekrob wrote:
liftnbig3 wrote:
happy holidays bros
Finishing up my 8 week cruise going into this cycle next week
600mg Test E 16 weeks
600mg Eq 14 weeks
300-400mg Tren blend 12 weeks
alot of you might not agree but thinking of adding winny in there as well/
Now for the diet, I am going to be cutting alot of processed carbs out, and junk food out. Eating tons of Meats, eggs, cheese, cottage cheese, ect.
The Only cycles I have ran have been bulking cycles which havent been a prob because I just ate everything but this is going to be my first cycle that I am trying to gain pretty much all LBM. and cut some b/f
Could you guys point me in the right direction for my diet and let me know what worked for you guys.
thanks bros
Liftingbig3
First two readings I would have you do are one on Carb-cycling (Justin Harris) and the other one on nutrition principles by Milos Sarcev. Both excellent on the principles of dieting for the “enhanced” trainee.
There are two approaches that you will need to find out which one works better for you. One is the no carbs approach and the other is the no fats approach. Some people work better with carbs others with fats so give 1 or the other a try during 1 cutting cycle and then later do another cycle with the other approach and compare notes as to which gave you the most fat loss.
Approach 1 - No carbs
The no carbs approach. Benefit: simplicity
This is the Old-Timer approach from 60�??s. You basically substitute all carbs for fat and fibrous vegetables used for bowel movements only. And slowly increase low intensity cardio from 1 session every day to 3 sessions every day depending on how much fat you have to loose, how long before competition you have and how are you feeling overall. The cardio sessions could be interchanged with additional muscle contraction routines since they are less draining on the CNS. IMO intense cardio is not good with this approach as you will be severely tired from the gluconeogenesis. By definition your training will be moved into brevity.
Approach 2 - Low fat
The no fat approach. Benefit: Energy
This is your basic modern bodybuilding approach of eating boiled chicken breasts, boiled white rice, bolied vegetables and basically everything boiled. It gives plenty of energy for several training sessions per day and doing high intense cardio, however the blandness of the food and the limited food choices plus the special preparation make it hard for some people.
Approach 3 - Hybrid
His is the method that Justin Harris and others have espoused lately. You basically use very low amounts of carbs to fuel your training sessions and remain using 0 carbs for the days you are not lifting. This has the benefit of allowing some variety, some easy meal preparations and enough energy to have intense workouts to keep the muscle. The drawbacks is that you need to be dialed-in with your nutrition as you will have to segment the days into high - medium and low carbs days. This poses a problem IMO for the first time dieter since they don�??t know what is the minimum amount of carbs that they need to consume. Some general guidelines have been given, but it pretty much is individual so there may be a lot of number crunching and monitoring here. Not bad if you have laser-like focus on diet, but nevertheless for the dieting novice it can be overwhelming.
Whichever dieting approach you choose there are some principles that you must follow:
- Do not change your training split
- Do try to keep your rep ranges the same
- Maintain your strength as much as possible
- Do not try to increase your poundages at this time (too dangerous)
- You must do some sort of cardio
Gaining muscle while even trying to reduce bodyfat levels is an art in itself. It can be done, but you will need to have every single factor in control at this time. By factors I mean rest, diet, supplementation and training. All will play an important part and no one is more important than the other. AAS will help you with the recuperation, but remember that the extra cardio will place additional stress on the CNS and overtraining can still happen, albeit rare. However take care of any joint issues that may creep up.
If you can tell I have omitted giving you any particular points regarding cardio. That is because each person is unique and the type of cardio will depend on which dieting style you follow. From experience low carb dieting lends itself well to early morning cardio at 4mph incline for 45min. Low fat lends itself to 45min cardio after training and it becomes individual with the hybrid.
If you haven�??t started with the cardio that would be my first suggestion before starting the cycle. Do some easy 40min cardio sessions after your training on lifting days except for leg days as it will kill your knees. Depending on your bodyfat condition you can do 5 cardio sessions per week. No worries since these are not HIIT sessions and you are using androgens plus monitoring your heart levels (via HRM right?).
I have also omitted to give you the mechanics on how to calculate your PRO, CARBS and FAT. I did that because you should know this by now since you have done bulking cycles before. If not then please see the videos by Milos Sarcev and Justin as they go over this in much more detail than what I can type at this time. The main thing will be to control the fat and carbs consumed while maximizing the protein. Protein supplements will become invaluable at this time.
My personal experience was last year with some test prop and var (which turned out to be winny 
) cycle was as follows.
I separated my months into 2 week blocks. I alternated 1 week all out hard-core cardio with 2 weeks lower intensity. This I did because I have suffered through the years some injuries whenever I abused cardio while lifting hard. I also changed my diet drastically from the first 2 weeks with the next weeks.
The hard-core cardio was done with mostly liquid meals consisting of 50g PRO, 38g CHO and 12g F. This was because through trial and error I have found that less than x amount of carbs for me my world turns inside-out and over y amount no matter how much gear I take my bodyfat increases.
The other weeks where less intense with more carbs and less than 70g of carbs exchanging it with more protein powder. And I performed low intensity cardio on the treadmill or the elliptical. Result, in 3 months 12 weeks I went from size 32 inch waist to 29 wile keeping my strength and even improving my forearms and calves. Mind you I am a short guy of 5�??6.
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This is a good example of being helpful.
good post too by the way,