Test/Tren Ace/Mast Prop Cycle

Hi guys, I’m new here and I was just wondering what you think of my cycle idea for the summer. I’m thinking of running test e with tren and mast with a frontload of test prop.

Ht: 5’11
Wt: 180
BF: 8-9%
Hoping to gain lean/dry mass with a bit of strength, but main concern is mass gain and leanness.

Test E 1-12 500mg
Test P 1-4 250mg
Tren A 1-12 50mg EOD or 5-12 75 mg EOD
Mast P 7-12 300mg

Just wondering what you guys think as far as this would go.
I am also wondering if I should throw in dbol as a kickstart, but i figured I wouldn’t need it with test p and tren thrown in in the beginning.
Also I’m not sure which is more beneficial, 50mg EOD tren for the whole cycle or 75mg EOD for 8 weeks of it.

If the dosages are all fucked up, please let me know, but after a bit of research this is what I’ve thrown together.
Thanks guys

if kick starting with prop i’d use more mg/week for the Test p, atleast 400mg or whats the point…

Mast is a waste unless your already have abs in and very visible… and if i was gonna use mast i’d use atleast 400mg per week, probably 500mg

also you need to pin tren ace every day.

minimum id run tren ace at is 350mg/week.

thats my $.02

fuck the prop, add dbol instead.

i wouldnt do a oral just for a “kickstart” use orals when your blood levels rise to the peak for the cycle.

for example i wont do orals with enanthate esters until atleast week 4 or 5…
prop i give 2 weeks
ace i give 1 week…

thats just my opinion and a simplistic approach.

[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
i wouldnt do a oral just for a “kickstart” use orals when your blood levels rise to the peak for the cycle.

for example i wont do orals with enanthate esters until atleast week 4 or 5…
prop i give 2 weeks
ace i give 1 week…

thats just my opinion and a simplistic approach.[/quote]

I respectfully disagree with this. I think a kickstart with something like dbol is great, especially for someone who’s not done many cycles. The pretty much instant gains in size/strength are so motivating. Probably doesn’t apply in this case seeing as the OP is using tren A, but in general I think an oral kickstart is great.

Also, I’m a big fan of orals in general and toggle through 2 or 3 types each cycle! Not exactly the healthiest thing to do, but I do 2 cycles a year max so I reckon I’m probably ok.

This is so far my favorite combo to date. You could play with the doses, I was about to say up the tren a little bit, but the RBA of tren is so high, the higher you take it the less you are likely to get out of your masteron.