i was wanting to run a 5 wk cycle of prop at 200mgs a week then switch to test e and was wondering the best way to crossover so as not to have any problems? would it be easier to crossover from cyp to e? if so whats that protocol look like? thx for the advice
this doesnt make much sense. explain your plan a bit clearer please.
[quote]kkombs wrote:
i was wanting to run a 5 wk cycle of prop at 200mgs a week then switch to test e and was wondering the best way to crossover so as not to have any problems? would it be easier to crossover from cyp to e? if so whats that protocol look like? thx for the advice[/quote]
Test is test, so there is not so much of an “issue” so much as ideally and quickly building up your cycle and not having you test levels go up and down like a yo-yo.
To me, the best use for test prop is as a front loader. It is faster acting, but shorter lived than cyp, and cyp shorter and faster that enanthate — so you can use prop to start a cycle hard — cyp and enanthate both take a little while to get built up in the blood.
For example: 500mg test prop and 250 test enanthate E3D for 6 days (so four shots), then just 250 test enanthate E3D for more-or-less the duration of your cycle.
Or frontload a lot of Enanthate for the same concept ---- 1000 the first day, then 250 test e, E3D.*
I like to front load, not use huge doses, and have LONG cycles.
(In fact, I think I am on month 13 of my current 500/week cyp cycle, mainly because I like having an insane sex drive.)
- I haven’t throught out the exact front load here — just setting out the concept. Don’t copy.
thx for response ruffian…bonez just tryin to put on some good quality muscle before the summer gets here so going to run some dbol and prop or e along with some gh. heard frontloading with prop is a good way to jumpstart a test regimen just wasnt sure how to crossover from one to the other without messing my test levels up. so was wondering how the “best way” to do this was. i work out five days a week…never really max out just focus on working the muscle group and isolating. been working out bout 5 yrs and never switched up test like this before. is there really a benefit to this way? or should i just start and stay with one or the other? would 200 mgs a week be sufficent for good strength and muscle gains until i start the e? is it better to take e twice a week or can i get away with once?
You wouldnt switch over. That doesnt make sense.
You start pinning the longer estered test. And as a kickstart you ADD the shorter acting test to it. The same way you would kickstart a cycle with an oral.
Im not really a fan of this method because it requires about 4 prop injections per week plus the 2 enanthate injections per week, but it’s a valid use of these drugs. It’s just being complicated for complications sake, IMO.
Frontload test e and be done with it. do a search on that
ok did some looking around on frontloading and it makes good sense so far but a little unclear on how the equation works…if i was planning on taking 5-600mgs a week for 8-12 wks i need to take 1100 mgs for the first time and get my levels up first week then just take the dose i was planning on taking every week after that? i would still need to taper down before fully ending cycle and beginning PCT correct? any suggestions on taper protocal when frontloading or just do it the same way ive been doing it which is 5-600mgs to 400 mgs for two wks then to 200 mgs for two weeks wait two or three weeks then start anastrazole. i do it this way because test shuts my nuts down hard and for a while if i dont so if you have a better way im open to suggestions. thx again
Youre not ready to use these drugs if you think anastrazole is a pct drug.
I’m going to frontload the anastrazole a week before I run to get my levels right and then continue to run it after the cycle is over with clomid at 100mgs for two weeks then 50 mgs for two weeks. I just don’t mention all this stuff cuz I’m tryingg to figure out too many things and got too much in my head to type…like I said this isn’t my first cycle…but would be the first time I ever frontloaded a test regimen so does that much look right in my last post? I know how to PCT I’m trying to figure out this frontload stuff and if I would still taper the same way?
I already have the clomid from last time and it messes with my eyes a little so might run nolva for PCT this time instead of clomid bbut the nolva doesn’t really do anything for the HPT to get my body back to producing its own test…that’s what I’m reading in research anyway and I read that the anastrazole does get ur body back to producing its own test quicker by stimulating the HPT so that’s why I said I’m going to use it for PCT…but not by itself…sorry for not being clear
What taper are you talking about??
Whether it’s your first cycle or not, youre confused about a few things. Clearly.
does my frontload amount look right at 1-1200 mgs the first week? followed by 5-600 mgs every week after that?this method is supposed to stabilize my test levels quicker and bring faster results correct? if thats correct then im thinking bout trying it this time and just want to make sure i do it right so i can either validate or void this method in the future.
bonez if you got a better plan on picking up some quick lean muscle and strength before summer hits let me know something…my plans are still thought right now cuz i havent ever tried to run a “short” cycle like this before…instead of my normal 13 wks i gotta cut to 9 cuz i cant take my gear on the airplane so what im looking for is something good and quick which is new to me.
Lol @ brushing aside each and every point I make and then asking me for advice on other stuff
Why come to a forum to ask for advice if you just want affirmation of your plans?
[quote]kkombs wrote:
does my frontload amount look right at 1-1200 mgs the first week? followed by 5-600 mgs every week after that?this method is supposed to stabilize my test levels quicker and bring faster results correct? if thats correct then im thinking bout trying it this time and just want to make sure i do it right so i can either validate or void this method in the future.
bonez if you got a better plan on picking up some quick lean muscle and strength before summer hits let me know something…my plans are still thought right now cuz i havent ever tried to run a “short” cycle like this before…instead of my normal 13 wks i gotta cut to 9 cuz i cant take my gear on the airplane so what im looking for is something good and quick which is new to me.[/quote]
I would strongly advise that you do not cycle. You clearly have no idea what you are doing.