This might be the wrong place to ask…but did not find anything…if come across alot of readings where they say
injecting TEST PROP is very painfull ??
Has anyone done this ? whats painfull ,in what way ? I inject ENANTHATE weekly feels fine ,how does this compare ?
thanks guys
I have not used prop yet, but am planning to in a month or two. My understanding is that injection pain is usually caused by the concentration of solvents and preservatives, BB and BA.
I believe that Prop requires higher concentrations or different ratios compared to Test E which is why some people experience more pain. Pain tolerance is also a personal thing. I’ve heard people say that they have felt no pain at all.
BTW inject the E more often.
Ive taken prop for a total of about 4 weeks. I had bad pain and stiffness at the injection site for about the 36 hrs after injection. I felt especially stiff in those areas, and it hurt if they were touched.
I personally dont feel the slightest bit of pain from any prop at all. Others I know are crippled by the same product for a day or two.
It has nothing to do with the BA/BB concentrations as they are the same. However off the top of my head I cant recall the technical reason as to why the pain exists in most people.
Thanks for the correction lilguy. With UG labs though, I think it’s hard to say for certain that the concentrations are guaranteed to be the same as pharmacies. I’ll take your word that the concentrations don’t need to be changed just because its Prop though. Apologies for any confusion OP
Perhaps its just people trying virgin muscle sites. whack it in the glutes if you re used to them you ll barely feel it…
[quote]entouragevip wrote:
perhaps its just people trying virgin muscle sites. whack it in the glutes if you re used to them you ll barely feel it…[/quote]
whats weird about this is,when I first started using the prop that I made the first week was perfect no problems at all.
after that,the muscle sorness is horrible.
started with lumps in my ass that wouldnt go away,that scared the crap out of me.
now my shoulder feel like someone kicked me.
the soreness stays for like someone said about a full day and a half sometimes 2 and takes about a full day to set in.
not double post
prop dosent need a different concertration of ba/bb
thats the saame across the board
I beleive bb is just a perservative and the ba for the nasties. mines got 20%BB and 2% ba or there abouts.
My buddy just did his first two injects in the past 3 days with the same prop that I got (we made the order together). He has not experienced any real pain so to speak. Nothing outside of the usual normal very dull soreness.
[quote]facko wrote:
My buddy just did his first two injects in the past 3 days with the same prop that I got (we made the order together). He has not experienced any real pain so to speak. Nothing outside of the usual normal very dull soreness.[/quote]
see with mine it comes and goes.
I am opnly like 6 injections in so I cant really say on average ya know.
but I found in my delts they at first was fine but now get sore.
I have had 2 leg shots and one is fine the other got sore a couple days later.
its kind of hit and miss but the inject itself is wonderful its when I start to disperse the oil that I start feeling it now.
[quote]AlteredState wrote:
LillGuy001 wrote:
I personally dont feel the slightest bit of pain from any prop at all. Others I know are crippled by the same product for a day or two.
It has nothing to do with the BA/BB concentrations as they are the same. However off the top of my head I cant recall the technical reason as to why the pain exists in most people.
Exactly. I know that some highly respected (Bill Roberts) authors have claimed that the whole ‘prop pain’ phenomena is either non-existant or just due to high levels of BA, but when you look at the facts, that cannot be right.
When the same product causes pain in one person but not another, then there has to be some ‘human factor’ at play and I suspect it is an immune response/allergic reaction to the test prop molecules themselves.
It doesn’t seem likely that it is a reaction to the BA itself, since the pain/reacion occurs some 12 to 24 hours post injection, which is about how long it should take the BA to leave the injection site, leaving the depot of crystals behind to irritate the sarcolemma, releasing sequestered calcium and causing inflammation and pain.
That’s my theory anyway ;)[/quote]
actually strange as it sounds that might be it as the i ve been on prop recently and started taking antihistamines and the pain didn t happen on those occasions…
[quote]entouragevip wrote:
AlteredState wrote:
LillGuy001 wrote:
I personally dont feel the slightest bit of pain from any prop at all. Others I know are crippled by the same product for a day or two.
It has nothing to do with the BA/BB concentrations as they are the same. However off the top of my head I cant recall the technical reason as to why the pain exists in most people.
Exactly. I know that some highly respected (Bill Roberts) authors have claimed that the whole ‘prop pain’ phenomena is either non-existant or just due to high levels of BA, but when you look at the facts, that cannot be right.
When the same product causes pain in one person but not another, then there has to be some ‘human factor’ at play and I suspect it is an immune response/allergic reaction to the test prop molecules themselves.
It doesn’t seem likely that it is a reaction to the BA itself, since the pain/reacion occurs some 12 to 24 hours post injection, which is about how long it should take the BA to leave the injection site, leaving the depot of crystals behind to irritate the sarcolemma, releasing sequestered calcium and causing inflammation and pain.
That’s my theory anyway 
actually strange as it sounds that might be it as the i ve been on prop recently and started taking antihistamines and the pain didn t happen on those occasions…[/quote]
which anti-histimines if you dont mine me asking?
I can also try this out and see if anything happens.
wow I did not think I would get that many replys…since some of you have taken prop…how was it ? any truth to this statement
“Since propionate is quickly effective, often after only one or two days, the athlete experiences an increase of his training energy, a better pump, an increased appe-tite, and a slight strength gain.”
Im on enanthate 100mg a week…but looking for something I can add to to it might help with A lil more of the above…(im limited to what I can add) has to be out of my system in 4-8 weeks(any suggestions)
keep in mind Im on enanthate because i did need it…and unlike most, ‘size’ is not what I want…im a athlete that needs to make weight…any help would be great…thanks guys !
[quote]fightu35 wrote:
wow I did not think I would get that many replys…since some of you have taken prop…how was it ? any truth to this statement
“Since propionate is quickly effective, often after only one or two days, the athlete experiences an increase of his training energy, a better pump, an increased appe-tite, and a slight strength gain.”
Im on enanthate 100mg a week…but looking for something I can add to to it might help with A lil more of the above…(im limited to what I can add) has to be out of my system in 4-8 weeks(any suggestions)
keep in mind Im on enanthate because i did need it…and unlike most, ‘size’ is not what I want…im a athlete that needs to make weight…any help would be great…thanks guys ![/quote]
I am currently taking prop as I type this.
I just measured myself today and after 2 weeks I am up 6-8 pounds I will weight in at the gym today my scale is not that accurate but there is a big difference.
all my measurments stayed the same execpt for in my chest,waist, and thiegh
chest is down by 3 inches,waist is down by little more than 1 inch theigh area is down by about 1/2 inch
I havent worked out but maybe 3 times the last 2 weeks my diet has been hell and I been really tired.
at best I get in an hour and a half walking around.
my diet been at about 1000 cals a day sometiems even less
I wanted to see a “what if” type thing
I am at 140mg ED with 1mg daily of a’dex
no sides at all to speak of I found like 2 zits and thats it.
so despite starvation or close to it I have gained what is assumed to be lean weight because of the measurments.
today I am starting my proper diet before I mess myself up too bad.
and my workout routine will be back to normal starting today
I will see how much different my strength is today compaired to before I started starving myself for the last 2 weeks
strength wasnt stellar at first I was stronger but not like he-man strong
I did have better endurance though thats for sure.
so far besides the ED injects I said in one thread that my prop is nasty but I am sure its the diet that messed me up going from 3500+ to 500-1000 cals is tough on anyone. and the prop is actually wonderful and doing its job.
lately the shots have been getting really sore,like the whole muscle feels bruised up.I take aleve or asprin and that sorness subsides alot also I noticed the pain goes away if I drink more water.
to be continued…
thank you very much for reply…did you notice the ‘fast’ response to it ? any energy ?
[quote]fightu35 wrote:
thank you very much for reply…did you notice the ‘fast’ response to it ? any energy ?[/quote]
if i eat right ya I feel tons better.
but lately like i said I been starving myself so I just want to sleep.
by about day 4 my strength was up and I felt tons better.
after that a few hours before I inject I feel like crap and then a few hours after I feel better
like if you “need” your coffee in the morning.