Hey guy i have been reading on a few forums for a little over a year and I have to say this forum seems to be one of the most respected, and the advice to be the most respectful and solid. With that being said, Im running up on my 2nd cycle and have chosen to stick with:
(1-10) Test Prop 100mg EOD
(1-10) Anavar 50mg ED
(1-10) Arimidex 1mg ED
(1-14) Milk Thistle extract 1g (4000mg of actual herb)
Followed with: PCT
NOLVA: 40/20/20/10
Im not looking to make crazy gains, however hope to keep somewhere close to 10lbs of LBM with this cycle.
Previos cycle: (1-12) Test E 500mg
(1-10) Deca 300 mg
Clomid 40/40/40
My previous cycle made me break out really bad on my back and chest and I had acne as a teen bad.
Stats: 25yrs old
205lbs
Hover around 10% BF
Diet: between 4-5500 calories, 250-300g of protein, 450-550g of carbs, under 50-60 g of sugar, 1.5 gal water daily
Train: 5 Days a week with 15m of HIT cardio after workouts.
Im running Var because of its mild andro effects but stacking it with test of course to keep strength, size, and energy up. Im trying to avoid A acne flare up because I just finished with a cycle of Accutane with my doc. Ill be running 5g of Vita B5, 100mg of Zinc with the cycle to help with keeping the acne down, along with showering 2x daily.
What do you guys think? Sounds good right? Ive read the stickies provided on the forum about newbie cycles and have educated myself pretty well i think, but Im always down for more info. I know that Var is 17aa, but i also know its very mild and can be ran for 10 weeks fine with proper supplementation. Im putting in my order so if anyone could just double check this that would be great!
I believe Test Prop is best injected ED, so in your case 50mg/day.
1mg/day Arimidex seems quite high for 350mg/week of Testosterone. I understand that you want to minimize the chance of an acne flareup but this dose could drive your E2 too low (unless you have experience with Arimidex and have found out that you need this much).
You could add Aromasin to your PCT to keep E2 in check during this period and reduce the chance of acne.
You could also apply benzoyl peroxide @ 2.5% twice per day to the affected areas if you see acne appearing. This is the most effective topical and you can get it cheaply at acne.org
The general recommendation is to keep orals usage under six weeks to avoid liver problems. You have just stopped using Accutane, which seems to be heavy on the liver (it increases transaminase levels) so this is something to consider.
Yea I see what your saying, I may up the dose to 125mg EOD then, I do not want to do ED injections. Ive also revised my cycle and lowered the Arimidex to 0.5mg ED. Ive had my blood work done monthly while on accutane and my doc said that my blood work is perfect, like im not even on it, so im not highly concerned about that, however ive heard that sense var is so mild it can be run a tad longer.
Your info is greatly accepted i will revamp my cycle, thanks for the help! Anyone else have experience with test prop/ var, thats side prone?
THANKS EABOADAR.
Hey also ive read that Aromasin can give you andro sides, such as acne… experience? thanks!
OP - what is your reason for going with prop this time around?
I too had bad acne as a teen. Used Accutane in high school. Hated it, never want to use it again. Acne is my #1 concern and the main reason I haven’t done my first cycle yet (that, and trying to figure out if/how I can keep my girlfriend in the dark about it).
This concern has me leaning towards prop for my first. My thinking being that if I do see a bad acne flare up I can cease use immediately and have it clear my system quickly. Is that why you are using prop this time around?
Vets - Is this sound reasoning? Is there any other reason most people say Test E over Test P for first cycle, other than an inexperienced user trying to handle ED or EOD injections?
mikewatts- Yes, thats one reason. Also keeping a more stable blood levels is another reason. I honestly think the Deca made me break out because it just lingered and lingered and would not budge long after my cycle. But just out of concern Im switching over to prop. I am going to pump up to dose a little though and take the time down. Im thinking:
(1-8) Test Prop 125mg EOD
(1-4) Anavar 50mg
(4-8) Anavar 75-100mg depending on tolerance
(1-8) Arimidex .50mg ED, If i just plain feel like shit and joints worsen, switch to either .25mg ED or .50mg EOD
Follow with posted PCT and sups.
I put in my order today so I have a day or two too revise.
How are you getting on with this? You should be finished, or near the end of your cycle, yeah? How’s the acne?