First Cycle!

Finally made the decision to start.

Stats:

Powerlifter
24
5’8
166 lb
15-16% bf
Total 1080 lb in big 3

Goals:

Mostly strength gains with body recomp (cut around 7 lb fat and gain around 10 lb muscle)

Diet is cal controlled to attain above goals.

Cycle:

Weeks 1-6: 50mg anavar a day split into two doses, 30mg morning and 20mg evening.

Weeks 1-8: 100mg testosterone propionate every second day. (comes to 350mg per week)

Weeks 1-8: 6.25mg Aromasin every day.

Weeks 1-8: 500IU HCG every 4th day.

Weeks 9-12: Clomid 50mg every day.

Weeks 9-12: Nolvadex 40mg a day for weeks 9 and 10, 20mg a day for weeks 11 and 12.


What do you guys think? Also what is your opinion on doing the aromasin on cycle instead of Adex? And the combination of Clomid and Nolva PCT?

Might log here once I start too…

Bump

I have no experience with this but, from what I’ve researched, here’s my opinion FWIW:

Aromasin should be fine instead of Anastrozol during cycle and it has the added bonus of not interfering with SERMs, so it can also be used during PCT, which leads me to my next point…

Some guys say there’s no reason to stack Noladex and Clomid and that it might actually be counterproductive. Also, there seems to be no reason to high-dose Tamoxifen Effect of lower versus higher doses of tamoxifen on pituitary-gonadal function and sperm indices in oligozoospermic men - PubMed so if you want to enhance your PCT you could rather do a combination of Nolvadex and Aromasin.

Aside from that, most seem to prefer injecting Test Prop ED instead of EOD and HCG EOD, so in your case 50mg/day of Test Prop and 250IU HCG EOD.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for the input on Aromasin! Will doing test prop ED make a noticeable difference? Thats a lot of jabs…

[quote]Silo101 wrote:
Thanks for the input on Aromasin! Will doing test prop ED make a noticeable difference? Thats a lot of jabs…[/quote]

To this I cannot attest but it is the standard practice. Maybe one of the veterans can chime in.

[quote]Silo101 wrote:
Thanks for the input on Aromasin! Will doing test prop ED make a noticeable difference? Thats a lot of jabs…[/quote]

You can get away with EOD injections, but with such a short ester ED injections help maintain stable blood levels much better. You’re also pinning a smaller amount ED than you would EOD, so PIP is minimal (even with prop). Just make sure you’re familiar with multiple injections sites so you never have to pin the same spot more than once per week.

Edit: Also, why only 350mg per day? Thats a bit low, even for a first cycle. If you’re going to shut your HPTA function down anyways, might as well do it on 500mg/week and get the best bang for your buck. 350mg isn’t worth it the shutdown, IMO.

[quote]PulsedEE wrote:

[quote]Silo101 wrote:
Thanks for the input on Aromasin! Will doing test prop ED make a noticeable difference? Thats a lot of jabs…[/quote]

You can get away with EOD injections, but with such a short ester ED injections help maintain stable blood levels much better. You’re also pinning a smaller amount ED than you would EOD, so PIP is minimal (even with prop). Just make sure you’re familiar with multiple injections sites so you never have to pin the same spot more than once per week.

Edit: Also, why only 350mg per day? Thats a bit low, even for a first cycle. If you’re going to shut your HPTA function down anyways, might as well do it on 500mg/week and get the best bang for your buck. 350mg isn’t worth it the shutdown, IMO.[/quote]

Yeah 350Mg a day is pretty low :slight_smile: just kidding, I know you meant week but I agree, 500 is a typical starting dose and unless youre getting some good pharm grade stuff there’s a good chance its a little underdosed anyway.

Thanks guys, the prop I sourced is meant to be pharma grade but who knows these days… It comes in 1 ml 100mg amps which is why I chose EOD I guess I’d have split one amp into two syringes and store the one string until the next day if I go with ED?

I chose the low dose because I can’t actually put on too much mass if I want to stay in my weight class so I figured I wouldn’t need much! Especially with the addition of the anavar. Although I might be wrong here… It was my thought process anyway. :confused: I also wanted to see how sensitive I am to sides etc