Two things have recently converged to provide me with a lot of test. I have been on TRT for over a decade. Usually take like 80mg/week, but I did up that to 100mg/week while I cut down from 235 to 190. That happened over about 3 months and I was worried about losing too much muscle. Not that I had a ton to start with.
My insurance recently changed and I had to get a new PCP. She wants me to switch to Jatenzo (which I am getting for free). At the same time, my new insurance shipped me 3 months of cypionate and I have another 3 months worth that I could go pick up today from CVS for $70 out of pocket (prescribed by my previous PCP). I’m going to switch to the Jatenzo for 8 weeks and then do blood work to see how it goes. After that, I won’t have to do blood work for at least 6 months to year. I was thinking about trying to add some muscle back rather quickly after the 8 weeks on Jatenzo. Is there a decent, relatively safe way to go about using all this test to accomplish that? I’m already bald and snipped, so neither of those is a concern. My BP is well controlled on meds. Cholesterol is a bit high, but the HDL to LDL ration is good.
I’ve attached my labs from a couple of weeks ago (when I was still taking 100mg/week). As a side note, I use a 25g 5/8" needle to inject into my thighs. Seems to be working.
How fast you put on muscle tissue no matter what your taking all comes down to genetics.
One thing you will need to be careful with is your PCP bloodwork intervals. Your numbers are already elevated and will take a few weeks to settle backdown once you go back to 80mg/wk. Doc may not like your numbers at 100mg and they may reduce your dose.
If the cyp is working and you/your doc are happy why switch? If you can keep getting 3mos for $70 that’s dirt cheap.
If you want to try to circumnavigate the bloodwork interval issues give us a timeline for your plans and blood work check ins.
I will start the Jatenzo this weekend, then have bloodwork in 8 weeks. Assuming things are normal at that point, I don’t have to do bloodwork again for at least 6 months. So I would have about 5 good months to work with, leaving me a month before my next bloodwork.
Ok. My doc did blood tests for a bunch of stuff except test. I won’t have to do blood work for 6 months. So that gives me about 5 months to take the Jatenzo and the cyp. I have tried to research using both but haven’t really come up with much.
I am feeling fine on the Jatenzo, so I am assuming my levels are fine.
Some more info. I’ve had a vasectomy, and been on TRT for about 15 years. Already bald and hairy as hell so don’t really care about any of that.
I’m just not sure how much of the cyp to add. I’m thinking maybe 60mg a week on to of the Jatenzo. Is that enough to make a difference? Is there anything I should take along with it? My estrogen levels have always been fine when checked, but I certainly don’t want c-cups. Thanks for any advice.
What is your weekly dose of jatenzo?
If your gonna do a cycle I would add whatever amount gets you to 300mg/wk. Or take 300mg/wk on top of the jatenzo. Run that for 12 weeks and you’ll be fine for Dr bloods.
Have an AI on hand. You could even take .5 mg/wk of arimidex to start and either adjust if you feel estrogen symptoms or get bloods.
No AI. What would you suggest? I know where I can get it. Haven’t checked my blood pressure. I’ll do that today at work. I’ve been on BP meds since I was 18. It is well controlled normally. I’m thinking I just don’t know enough to do this and that I can’t mentally handle gaining the weight.
You could get some aromasin or arimidex.
Aromasin-12.5mg 2x week to start
Arimidex-.5mg 2x per week to start
Aromasin blocks conversion and is milder
Arimidex reduces estrogen
You need to be careful with both not to crash estrogen.
If you feel fine and BP is good having elevated estrogen is not an issue in the short term while your taking higher test. If your having high estrogen symptoms or holding a ton of water that’s another story.
I commented in your log as well.
I get it. Messes with your head. I used to be the same now I know I’m training and eating for my goals and as long as the mirror shows me what I want to see I just roll with it.
