brook…you the man ,thank you sir
remember, those are not gospel… a loose guide… testing standards increase every year.
double check any decision too… triple check it. a mistake fucks you over dont it.
[quote] Brook wrote:
remember, those are not gospel… a loose guide… testing standards increase every year.
double check any decision too… triple check it. a mistake fucks you over dont it.
;)[/quote]
I hear ya…and thank you…for me this will a 1 time deal.test im on from dr…and he said he does not see takin me off it…that test I can pass…but soon i will need to pass a casino test which…them indians(no disrespect) are worst then the olympics ! I wont pass anything…so thanks again…
what would you pick to add to enanthate from my searching
(like we are told to do) seems winsterol…any sugestions…
get ya own thread!
[quote] Brook wrote:
get ya own thread![/quote]
Thanks JJ. I found it a bit rude ever since fightu35’s first post here. Now I know how Kayveeay must have felt when I made the same transgression on his thread.
No offense fightu35, but that is proper decorum on T-Nation.
huh ? brook…I replyed to your reply no ?
trust me guys…much respect here…so my mistake, my bad…
you did… but i cant keep replying to your posts ignoring the fact that this isnt your ‘turn’… not your thread etc… easily solved…
[quote]fightu35 wrote:
huh ? brook…I replyed to your reply no ?
trust me guys…much respect here…so my mistake, my bad…
[/quote]
No worries fightu35. An innocent mistake. Do you know how to start a thread? If not we’re more than happy to help out.
Best…
yes I do …I honestly from being frustrated over my own prob…simply did not relize…never did it before…and will not again…I thank all those who help…so thats my part…
and brook…lol, couldnt be more clear…my bad
Well I heard back from the online source I ordered from. They acknowledged the Western Union control number I sent them and said that the funds will be picked up within 24 hours and that the goods will be shipped within 1-4 days. Also that it will arrive within 1-3 weeks.
I sent them a message asking if the goods will be sent in one or more packages and if they will alert me when it is shipped.
I’m in the middle of a a Test E/DB/Prov cycle right now, works great.
Though for me I only use the DBol to give me a boost before I train. For some reason anytime I take about 15-25mg of DBol about 1-2 hours later I get so much energy its freakin scary…so perfect pre-workout.
Otherwise the 500mg E5D and 50mg Prov ED are working wonders on their own. I actually like this for a cutting cycle…for some reason proviron makes me lean.
[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Personally I have no experience with BD. They got busted almost 6 months ago. From my reading, if someone’s selling their stuff then there’s a good chance it’s bogus. Game_over stated there’s still some pre '06 floating around so some sources still have NOS.
I would imagine the supply is minimal as I’m sure most guys stocked up with that stuff when they heard the news. I sure would have.
Your chances would be better if you ordered a compound that isn’t very popular. But test e? That’s like bread and butter.
BD was supposedly top-notch. I doubt they under-dosed. The fact that you’re being told this about your gear doesn’t look great.
On the other hand you may have hit the jackpot with the real deal. Just pin it and you’ll know.[/quote]
What does NOS mean?
[quote]gettinbigger wrote:
I’m in the middle of a a Test E/DB/Prov cycle right now, works great.
Though for me I only use the DBol to give me a boost before I train. For some reason anytime I take about 15-25mg of DBol about 1-2 hours later I get so much energy its freakin scary…so perfect pre-workout.
Otherwise the 500mg E5D and 50mg Prov ED are working wonders on their own. I actually like this for a cutting cycle…for some reason proviron makes me lean.[/quote]
Hey gettinbigger,
Thanks for the feedback. Do I understand you correctly that you are injecting the test enathate only once every 5 days (500mg - all at once)? If so why did you select that schedule when it is widely recommended to go E3D? Some recommend EOD.
Proviron is known to reduce bloat and improve body comp quality. Good to know it is working that way for you too. I am curious if you followed the basic cycle template I laid out or customized your own? Mine (basically modified from Furious George’s sticky) is as follows:
Proposed cycle:
W 1-10 Test Enth 250mg E3D
W 1-4 Dbol 10mg 3x/d
W 1-10 Proviron 25mg 2x/d (I will use from w 1-10 to minimize SHBG which for me is an issue instead of FG’s recommended w 6 - 10)
W 1-10 Adex 0.25mg EOD (to be adjusted accordingly if estrogen issues arise)
hCG 250iu EOD (I am adding this in for testicular health)
W 1-12 Nolva 20mg/d if gyno symptoms start to show (Doubt highly that this will be needed)
No PCT in my case since I want to continue on HRT levels of test continually, which will also handle PCT for the above cycle.
Post Cycle:
Test Enanthate 100mg per week split into EOD doses (approx 30mg EOD)
Adex 0.125 EOD (to be adjusted accordingly if estrogen issues arise)
hCG 250iu EOD
Proviron 25mg 2x/d (for same reasons as above and libido and to max benefit derived from low dose testosterone)
Also curious about the libido effects this cycle has brought you.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
What does NOS mean?
[/quote]
New Old Stock – something that’s been sitting on the shelf for a few years collecting dust. But it’s still new since it hasn’t been sold/used.
[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
What does NOS mean?
New Old Stock – something that’s been sitting on the shelf for a few years collecting dust. But it’s still new since it hasn’t been sold/used.[/quote]
Thanks for the explanation
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
gettinbigger wrote:
I’m in the middle of a a Test E/DB/Prov cycle right now, works great.
Though for me I only use the DBol to give me a boost before I train. For some reason anytime I take about 15-25mg of DBol about 1-2 hours later I get so much energy its freakin scary…so perfect pre-workout.
Otherwise the 500mg E5D and 50mg Prov ED are working wonders on their own. I actually like this for a cutting cycle…for some reason proviron makes me lean.
Hey gettinbigger,
Thanks for the feedback. Do I understand you correctly that you are injecting the test enathate only once every 5 days (500mg - all at once)? If so why did you select that schedule when it is widely recommended to go E3D? Some recommend EOD.
Proviron is known to reduce bloat and improve body comp quality. Good to know it is working that way for you too. I am curious if you followed the basic cycle template I laid out or customized your own? Mine (basically modified from Furious George’s sticky) is as follows:
Proposed cycle:
W 1-10 Test Enth 250mg E3D
W 1-4 Dbol 10mg 3x/d
W 1-10 Proviron 25mg 2x/d (I will use from w 1-10 to minimize SHBG which for me is an issue instead of FG’s recommended w 6 - 10)
W 1-10 Adex 0.25mg EOD (to be adjusted accordingly if estrogen issues arise)
hCG 250iu EOD (I am adding this in for testicular health)
W 1-12 Nolva 20mg/d if gyno symptoms start to show (Doubt highly that this will be needed)
No PCT in my case since I want to continue on HRT levels of test continually, which will also handle PCT for the above cycle.
Post Cycle:
Test Enanthate 100mg per week split into EOD doses (approx 30mg EOD)
Adex 0.125 EOD (to be adjusted accordingly if estrogen issues arise)
hCG 250iu EOD
Proviron 25mg 2x/d (for same reasons as above and libido and to max benefit derived from low dose testosterone)
Also curious about the libido effects this cycle has brought you.[/quote]
Dynamo,
I have found through trial and error that I get the same results when I pin TE E3D-E5D(keeping the dose the same) so I generally start with E5D. I only pin more often than that when the dosages increase or when I’m mixing it with Deca or EQ or even Tren (ED or EOD).
The only reason for that is to keep the injections at no more than 3cc each. There are a lot of people on this board and others that are much smarter than me and can give you a detailed mathematical equation with the breakdown rates of the different esters and how often you should inject. Personally I don’t think it really matters that much. Enanthate is a long acting ester and even at 250mg/week your still taking in a massive amount more than you make naturally. I think diet is the most important factor.
In the end everyone reacts differently to all drugs, I know guys who are much bigger than me who pin TE E3D for the 1st 3 weeks then only once a week and get great results, in the end it all comes down to trial and error. Besides to me injections are always risky even with proper technique so why do them any more often than nessesary?
As for libido…mine is through the roof! Proviron and test always do that for me, even if i’m dieting. The down side is I get wood all the freakin time…sometime that sucks.
So your planning on just staying on? I started that about 1 year ago all most to date. I use very small doses of HCG off and on all year just enough to bring my boys back like you are proposing and it works good for me. I would skip the proviron…I found its effects tend to lessen the more often you use it.
Incidentally the only thing I don’t like is that Proviron really jacks my blood pressure up. I have hit a gram a week of test with no BP problems…if I add only 25mg ED of Proviron, my BP goes up noticiably. So I would keep an eye on that.
[quote]gettinbigger wrote:
Dynamo,
I have found through trial and error that I get the same results when I pin TE E3D-E5D(keeping the dose the same) so I generally start with E5D. I only pin more often than that when the dosages increase or when I’m mixing it with Deca or EQ or even Tren (ED or EOD).
The only reason for that is to keep the injections at no more than 3cc each. There are a lot of people on this board and others that are much smarter than me and can give you a detailed mathematical equation with the breakdown rates of the different esters and how often you should inject. Personally I don’t think it really matters that much. Enanthate is a long acting ester and even at 250mg/week your still taking in a massive amount more than you make naturally. I think diet is the most important factor.
In the end everyone reacts differently to all drugs, I know guys who are much bigger than me who pin TE E3D for the 1st 3 weeks then only once a week and get great results, in the end it all comes down to trial and error. Besides to me injections are always risky even with proper technique so why do them any more often than nessesary?
As for libido…mine is through the roof! Proviron and test always do that for me, even if i’m dieting. The down side is I get wood all the freakin time…sometime that sucks.
So your planning on just staying on? I started that about 1 year ago all most to date. I use very small doses of HCG off and on all year just enough to bring my boys back like you are proposing and it works good for me. I would skip the proviron…I found its effects tend to lessen the more often you use it.
Incidentally the only thing I don’t like is that Proviron really jacks my blood pressure up. I have hit a gram a week of test with no BP problems…if I add only 25mg ED of Proviron, my BP goes up noticiably. So I would keep an eye on that.[/quote]
Hey GB,
Thanks for recounting your very relevent experience with the same gear I will be employing. I’ll keep an eye on my BP and do my own trial and error experimentation with pinning frequency and Proviron use. As for libido, forwarned is forearmed.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
As for libido, forwarned is forearmed.
[/quote]
So this is your new forearm workout? I’ll be sure to change my avatar more often just for your cycle!
j/k
I know what you meant. 
[quote]xXDevilDogXx wrote:
Dynamo Hum wrote:
As for libido, forwarned is forearmed.
So this is your new forearm workout? I’ll be sure to change my avatar more often just for your cycle!
j/k
I know what you meant. :)[/quote]
DD,
You are killing me with those avatars!! I’m not even enhanced yet!! You are cruel and sadistic!! I don’t know what I’ll do when test & Proviron kick in??
Actually good catch on the unintentional pun. I guess I walked into that one!
I only hope that when I am in extreme need of a partner, that she’ll look like your current avatar…
Well it doesn’t look like I’ll ever get my order!! My online source just wrote me today (email) that they couldn’t pick up the funds because they were sent to the wrong destination country. I called Western Union in an agitated state and made an effort to remain calm. I was told that everything does indeed check out and the funds are awaiting the correct designee at the correct country. I emailed back and maybe if I’m lucky in two days that email will be acknowledged and my online supplier will once again attempt to get the funds. If they have problems again, this could go on forever Aaaagggghhhhh!!!
Funny thing is when I verified the MTCN (money transfer control number) through their (Western Union’s) automated system, it said that the funds were awaiting pickup in Canada?? The agent however assured me that the funds were sent to the correct destination and in the correct currency.
It’s like pulling f***ing teeth!!!