Right now I am trying to put on size and also get more definition. I am 5’ 9’’ 173 with 8% bodyfat. Im planning on:
1-10 Test E @ 500 mgs
6-12 50 mg ed Oral winny
13-15 50 mg ed clomid
What did you need help on? I didn’t see a question/concern. I would consider a test taper at cycle end. I personally prefer Nolva over clomid b/c of the sides. It would be good to have nolva on hand during the cycle any way incase gyno flares up.
And?
How many shots per week of the test?
Any plan for use of adex? Do you have any nolva?
Whats your reasoning for running the winstrol 2 weeks past the test?
It is a good idea to do that with the winny… for pct reasons, you will be coming off a short acting compound instead of a long acting one. You can start your PCT as the day after the last winstrol tab that way… Or those winstrols in the last 2 weeks could be taken just in the morning, in an effort to begin recovery then if possible. May be worth it.
It also could harden some of the bloat nicely… i use this idea in my “fantasy stack” at the moment!
Clomid is actually now a bit - dated - as a PCT IMO, have you a particular reason for using it over some other method?
So what do you want to know OP?
Well I have 50 50 mg winny tabs and I was wondering wen u guys should think that I should be running it during my test e cycle.
Im doing 2 ahots a week of the test on Mon and Thurs.
Im using clomid bc thats wat i got. I got 50 50mg tabs so i thought i put them to use. I didnt get any sides in my last cycle at all and I only ran 50 mg of clomid ed for 24 days
sorry, you ran clomid as a cycle? Just clomid for 4 weeks?
Did i read that right?
the wintrol either with the test at week 3 or 4 or exactly where you had it. I would choose one of these.
I didnt know you could get 50mg stanozolol?? Thtas good.
No i ran a cycle of andropen 275 for and ran clomid as a pct… and i have 100 25 mg tabs. I was thinking in how much i was going to take in a day.
So do u think i should run the winny in the beggining of my cycle or at the end and have winny running for an extra 2 weeks after the test?
[quote]bagels24 wrote:
Well I have 50 50 mg winny tabs and I was wondering wen u guys should think that I should be running it during my test e cycle.
Im doing 2 ahots a week of the test on Mon and Thurs.
Im using clomid bc thats wat i got. I got 50 50mg tabs so i thought i put them to use. I didnt get any sides in my last cycle at all and I only ran 50 mg of clomid ed for 24 days[/quote]
Clomid works great for me. Why change what isn’t broke? Because it’s dated? Hell my boys are up and running at at full volume in 2.5 weeks…maybe 120% of normal volume. Can’t beat that.
Aye, if you have it use it… and it does a better job than tamoxifen, i just meant in regards to the taper.
The winny… I personally would put it where it is… It wont give muc of a kick start except in strength, if you want that, fine. And by week 5 it will be great as the test will have kicked i.
If you do it from 6-12, you get 4 weeks of a potent stack, and then 2 weeks with just the winstrol to “harden” up the gains from the test and also to make recovery a lot easier.
OR you could go from week 4-10, making full use of the Test/Winstrol stack - and no matter what people think of Bill Roberts, he is certainly onto something with the Class I and Class II stacks. Love that guy.
I personally would do option 2. If you see on my “Fantasy Stacks” you will find that i am a fan of running less androgenic, more anabolic compounds after a cycle for the reasons given above. (when cost permits)
Joe
[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
the wintrol either with the test at week 3 or 4 or exactly where you had it. I would choose one of these.
I didnt know you could get 50mg stanozolol?? Thtas good.[/quote]
50mg stanzolol are very common.
Supressing the body for an extra two weeks makes no sense to me. You may as well be recovering by that point in time.
Run the winstrol with the last weeks of your test. Wait two weeks and start your clomid.
It only brings him to 12, not 14weeks.
Plus if he does them in the morning, he is going to be getting an anabolic effect which he can use to solidify his gains from the test - without the water, plus his natural test will not be recovering in that 1-2 weeks we know this.
So he may as well dose the winny (in the morning where is is unlikely to interfere with any natural test) and reap the rewards from finishing with a short ester, Non-aromatizing AAS - THEN he can go full ahead with zero AAS and the clomid when his body will be totally ready to come back.
It is a good idea i thin - but to each his own he is free to do whatever, both work IMO.
So Joe if i do run my winny from week 6-12 do i start the clomid still 10 days after my last injection
No, after the winstrol. But say you were going to run clomid from day 10 after last inject… now it will be day 14… so not much different except a decent 2 weeks of hardening the bloat - so to speak.
ok?
No his natural test will not be recovering at all if he continues to take the winstrol for two weeks after the test.
However if he wasnt taking the winstrol during the time his body would at least be attempting to recover instead of continuing to be supressed from further AAS.
His gains will have realisticly tapered off by weeks 7-8. An addition two weeks of test along the last 6 weeks of winstrol would be much more optimal.
Am I going to crash @ 500 mgs of test a week?
[quote]bagels24 wrote:
Am I going to crash @ 500 mgs of test a week?[/quote]
Of course. It will absolutely suppress if used for more than couple weeks.
Have you ever read anything on steroids you asshat? Or are you just another goddamned troll?
World
first of all world1187 if ur gonna say some stupid ass shyt u should just shut ur fucking mouth
secondly i wanted to know if i should stager down my dose towards the end
sorry i am not the master of steroids knowledge
that is why i am asking a ?