which one is your favorite and why would you run it over the other?
what are some pros and cons of each
In terms of what testosterone does to your body, there is really not much a difference between any of them. I don’t have experience with acetate so I can’t comment there.
Prop benefits are less ester weight, so there is more testosterone delivered in prop compared to an equal concentration of C or E. it’s in and out of your system relatively fast. If you’re cycling and you have a blood check coming up that you need to pass, then this is the right choice as it takes less time to clear your system.
Cons are typically a little more expensive, harder to find outside of the black market, and pretty common to get PIP from it as it recrystallizes in the muscle.
C and E are interchangeable. the difference between them are negligible.
These stays in your system longer than prop, but only approx. 60% of the weight is raw testosterone so you will need to inject more to get the same blood levels as prop. But this means you can inject much less frequently to have stable blood levels.
Ace is even lower ester weight than prop. Most say the pip is much better than prop too. Imo, if going short ester, I would run ace, but my supplier has both and many don’t.
I run test e, because it is typically 50 mg more per ml, and with my supplier they are the same price.
Half life is a tricky subject. If depends on more than just the ester. Carrier oil, how it is injected, and the individual response all play into it. If does seem test c is longer, but by how much, I don’t know (one can look at many sources and see they vary a lot in half life for both). For me, bloods work shows test e sticks around long enough.
is it a thing where gyno would be more prevalent in test e and c? or is that just bs
No, test is test in regards to gyno. However, if you started to form gyno, the prop or ace will be out of your system quickly when you stop. That would help with reducing any formation. I would just have nolva on hand to combat gyno if you don’t know how you respond. I would have that on hand for any ester you run, and if you pct, you will need it anyways.
Test is test. Only ester is different which only matters when injecting it first few times. When your levels get up, it does not matter anymore.
Most of my life i was on sust, now i switched to E, thinking it might be a bit more stable but i dont feel any difference nor did i felt something different while on sust.
Sometimes we overcomplicate stuff because of what we read online. If we would go by our feel, most of the stuff we red, would prove not true.
Lot of stuff on the forums is posted by people who hide under downloaded pictures or never show themselves, which is an indication that they might not have the actual experience with compounds, other than studying steroid profiles which were written bv other people. Then they get into debates and use links of studies made by other people to prove their hypothetical opinion about stuff they read somewhere else. Their opinion is written by someone and they back it up with some study made by someone else, but beginners read that and admire them because of their “knowledge”.
But if you actually try the stuff you will see that most of that is just bullshit and/or is just not noticable.
I believe that if you get your injection frequency in check on any of the esters, you probably wouldnt know the difference unless you KNEW you are supposed to know the difference, aka - Placebo effect.
The PIP with prop is NOT something to be taken lightly. Its horrible for me with even small TRT doses of say 15mg / day (0.15ml).
I can only imagine how horrible the PIP must be injecting something like 70mg (0.7ml) / day for a total of just under 500mg a week.
On the other hand, prop is something I can “feel” working almost immediately.
So you prefer anecdotal evidence over clinical studies?
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Clinical studies in this field are not tested on, and made for bodybuilding and strenght athletes. Most studies are for medical use, tested on sick people. Then there are bunch of stuff that is tested for strenght and bodybuilding, but it is tested on newbs, many times with bad diets, bad exercise plans, OR sometimes their actual lifestyle factors are not mentioned.
Also, when studying large groups of people, you do understand that it is all based on individual reports and their honesty. Its not like they put 3000 people in a cage, feed them same foods and put them under identical stress in training. They just give out outlines and they hope that people will follow them. We do know that people overestimate themselves all the time in these studies.
Basically, yes - i believe that someone who has experience, and actually achieved something and can show something himself, is much better advice than some 5 year old study from a forreign country, made by someone we dont know, tested on 3000 people we also dont know, and dont know shit about them, and someone without any real accountability who also cant show his face on the forum can regurgitate from.
Science is cool and all, i also have a degree in biology and also a political science, so i do understand the FUN of discussions that are based on studies no one of us has ever seen or will be able to put under the test, BUT…the problem is when kids read these fun discussions and imagine that the skinny fat guys on steroid forums, who are here only for the talk, are like mass-monsters with experience, and then they follow their advice, and… yea, sure, most times its harmless or worthless anyways, but i just feel very weird about people hiding under downloaded pictures, sharing their “KNOWLEDGE” about drugs, while most of them judging by their look, cant even dose creatine properly.
Some are worse than others. The stuff from my clinic has little to no PIP. The UGL stuff I tried made me incapable of getting in and out of my car for a week.
I chose Test C over Test E because it was my experience that Test E aromatized more on me than Test C. I used 200mg/wk. (plus a fair amount of anabolics)
I quit Test C two weeks out from a show, and then 10 days out I shot 100mg/day of Test Suspension in my shoulders. I took the last shot about 2 hours before prejudging. It helped to keep me hard and full, yet dry.
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