Everybody asks for stats so i’ll give em
Age 26
height 6ft 7 almost 200cm i think
weight 18 stone 250 lbs
dont know body fat i got a little pop belly off me holiday but there something under there
After loads of research and 2 years of training i’ve decided to do a 10wk test-e cycle at 500mg/week. which i’m ok with. these are my ideas so far
week 1-10 test e 250mg sunday morn/wens night
Week 6-12 Proviron 25mg 2x/d
week 13 Clomid 100mg/day first day 300mg
week 14-16 clomid 50mg/day
week 13- 16 nolva 20mg/day 40mg first day
and if have extra nolva on hand in case any gyno appears then i’d take 20mg/day
the area where i need to iron out before i start is i think that the clomid is ok on the pct is ok but is the nolva seeming ok too, also when is the ideal time to introduce proviron. many people have different ideas on this its hard to get a concrete idea as search engines are now full of crap pages. Also if gyno does start on a cycle do i take 20 mgs of nolva a day for the rest of the cycle or just untill the symtoms subside
thanks for any help with this i will be postin pics and doing a journal all the way through my cycle
Much better than your first attempt. I would personally buy some adex and run that throughout cycle so that you dont have to worry as much regarding the E related sides.
If gyno symptoms occur run 40mg/day for a couple days and then 20mg/day for say a week after. The flare ups should then go away. I would also suggest increasing your adex dosage over what it was prior to the flare up as you were obviously not taking enough.
Take the clomid or nolva for pct. Pick one or the other. Also agree on the higher dose for a day or two.
would you run arimidex at .5mg a day or just as and when its needed as some people say it can heavily affect gains also it so expensive. have you heard of letroplex? is it a good generic version?
It doesn’t have to be too expensive, if you research you will find that there are pretty cheap liquid versions of arimidex available.
You will have to experiment to see what dosage works for you. Start with a small one, like .25mg ED or EOD and work up as needed.
One suggestion for you, if you suspect AT ALL that you might be experiencing any kind of gyno flare up, use the adex immediately. Like LillGuy, I suggest against using nolvadex on cycle because, in my experience, it tends to work less well (for lack of a better phrase) when you later go to use it for PCT.
ok…am with you found the formentioned generic version pretty cheap dont want to do the liquidex as its an other injection to deal with…so you recommend taking adex just as and when you need it rather than throughout?
[quote]69THELEMEMT wrote:
ok…am with you found the formentioned generic version pretty cheap dont want to do the liquidex as its an other injection to deal with…so you recommend taking adex just as and when you need it rather than throughout?[/quote]
Being on my first cycle, I am hardly a fountain of reliable information. That said I can quote you what KSman said in response to the amount of Adex I am presently using with my very similar cycle.
My cycle:
W 1-10 250mg Test E E3D
W 1-6 10mg dBol 3x/d
W 1-5 25mg Proviron 1x/d
W 6-10 50mg Proviron 1x/d
W 1-10 250IU hCG EOD
W 1-10 0.25mg Adex EOD
Below is what KSman said today in response to my Adex dose considering my weekly dose of test e (583mg/w):
“.25 adex EOD is .875 mg/wk. That is not enough. 1mg can be ok for 100mg/wk TRT use. Anastrozole is competitive [statistically] with testosterone for the aromatase enzyme.”
[quote]69THELEMEMT wrote:
ok…am with you found the formentioned generic version pretty cheap dont want to do the liquidex as its an other injection to deal with…so you recommend taking adex just as and when you need it rather than throughout?[/quote]
No, I recommend taking arimidex throughout, personally, but it didn’t sound like you intended to do that.
Also, where did you get the idea the liquid arimidex is an injectible? It would be a BAD idea to inject liquidex, man.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
69THELEMEMT wrote:
ok…am with you found the formentioned generic version pretty cheap dont want to do the liquidex as its an other injection to deal with…so you recommend taking adex just as and when you need it rather than throughout?
Being on my first cycle, I am hardly a fountain of reliable information. That said I can quote you what KSman said in response to the amount of Adex I am presently using with my very similar cycle.
My cycle:
W 1-10 250mg Test E E3D
W 1-6 10mg dBol 3x/d
W 1-5 25mg Proviron 1x/d
W 6-10 50mg Proviron 1x/d
W 1-10 250IU hCG EOD
W 1-10 0.25mg Adex EOD
Below is what KSman said today in response to my Adex dose considering my weekly dose of test e (583mg/w):
“.25 adex EOD is .875 mg/wk. That is not enough. 1mg can be ok for 100mg/wk TRT use. Anastrozole is competitive [statistically] with testosterone for the aromatase enzyme.”[/quote]
KSman is somebody all newbs should listen to very carefully.
Please take what I’m saying with a grain of salt, as I’ve never run a cycle. But I once considered it, did a lot of researching and had planned on including HCG if I ever went through with it. With that said, isn’t 250iu EOD going to have a desensitizing effect.
I had been under the impression that twice a week at that dose would be sufficient. This is as much a learning thing for me as it is anything, so please don’t think I’m criticizing you! I just want to learn all I can so I’ll be ready 40lbs. from now.
[quote]JSmith23 wrote:
Please take what I’m saying with a grain of salt, as I’ve never run a cycle. But I once considered it, did a lot of researching and had planned on including HCG if I ever went through with it. With that said, isn’t 250iu EOD going to have a desensitizing effect.
I had been under the impression that twice a week at that dose would be sufficient. This is as much a learning thing for me as it is anything, so please don’t think I’m criticizing you! I just want to learn all I can so I’ll be ready 40lbs. from now.[/quote]
250IU EOD hCG seems to be the steroid forum consensus of those who have looked into it. It is also KSman’s recommendation. Each individual’s metabolism is unique however and some dose experimentation is warranted.
now concidering doing
weeks 01-10 Testosterone Enanthate at 250mg twice a week
weeks 01-12 Arimidex at .25mg everyday
weeks 13-14 Nolvadex at 40mg everyday
weeks 15-16 nolva at 20mg everyday
i can get arimidex at 2.5mg a pill meaning i could take 1/4 of a pill equalling .75mg eod would this be sufficent or to much as im not sure how to dose the liquid stuff…all help is great at this point as i’m looking to start cycle in one week
[quote]69THELEMEMT wrote:
i can get arimidex at 2.5mg a pill meaning i could take 1/4 of a pill equalling .75mg eod would this be sufficent or to much as im not sure how to dose the liquid stuff…all help is great at this point as i’m looking to start cycle in one week[/quote]
I went with liquid Adex (oral) since it is really cheap compared to pill form Anastrozole (Arimidex). It cost me $77 including shipping for 60ml (1mg/ml). That is 120 0.5mg doses or 240 0.25mg doses. From all accounts it is also very effective.
BTW, it is very easy to dose. The bottle has a graduated dropper and you simply drop out your dose onto a teaspoon and slurp it up. You can add a little water to the teaspoon to slurp up the residue on a second pass if any.
weeks 01-10 Testosterone Enanthate at 250mg twice a week (sunday night and thursday) morning night
weeks 01-12 Arimidex at .25mg everyday if needed
Week 5-12 Proviron 25mg 2x/d
weeks 13-14 Nolvadex at 40mg everyday
weeks 15-16 nolva at 20mg everyday
this seem ok? does the proviron look ok?
soon as me a arimidex arrives i’ll be starting this cycle this sunday and posting progress upon here so all help is absolutly helpfull
thanks
Looks fine. You will probably be having so much fun that you’ll want to run it a couple of extra weeks. Don’t be afraid to do so if you are still making gains. Just adjust your PCT accordingly. Looks like a great bread and butter first cycle.
I am 1 1/2 weeks into a very similar ten weeker (first cycle). 250mg test e E3D, 10mg dBol 3x/d for first 4 weeks, Proviron 25mg/d from the get go and then boosting that to 50mg in the last 4 weeks, 0.25mg Adex/d throughout, 250iu hCG EOD also throughout.
Cortes is right. It is starting to feel really good.
right first injection tomorrow ss…hhh…eeeee…ttttt!
lets ave it! gonna post a before pic possibly tomorrow if me bitch fucks off out so she doesn’t think and posing for gaydate.com or something and then do a journal if anyones interested and a after picture of me massive kicking shit out of the hulk