Hi guys
I’m doing my research before considering my first cycle of test e. I don’t want to go in too deep with my first cycle hence why I’m not stacking.
I’m 24 years old and have been lifting for about 4 years. I currently weigh 190lbs, but would be looking to gain weight before my first cycle so this really is just a thread to see if I’m going in the right direction with dosage, pct, AI and HCG.
I’ll post my proposed routine and take on board all feedback and advice given to me.
Noted, ditch the HCG blast, I guess I was being a bit too cautious with that extra HCG.
Why lower dose of SERM? As Yogi said do I only need clomid OR nolva not both?
I used to run Chlomid at 50/50/25/25 with Nolva at 40/40/20/20 but since lerking around T Nation I have seen countless posts explaining that when it comes to a SERM PCT, more is not better and a lower dose SERM is more effective for the bodies recovery … Too higher SERM dose and it could stimulate the body to an un natural level… The whole idea of PCT is to return the body to natural hormone levels.
So with that being said, the “new” method of using 20mg Nolvadex ED for 6-8 weeks after a fairly mild Test based cycle is sufficient and with some people posting blood results to prove it.
I too used to do HCG 2x per week, but again after some reading it is noted that the half life of HCG is very short so is better to be ran 3x per week.
Ok, makes sense really. Last thing I want to do is run too much aftercare but also don’t want to not have enough.
So instead of 4 weeks aftercare it would be 6 weeks, taking 20mg every day? Causing me to add another 2 weeks before starting another cycle if that’s what I decide to do?
Yes 6-8 weeks from an 8-14 week Test based cycle should be good.
If you really care about recovery the rule of thumb is you should be off as long as you are on… I class PCT as on. So, you should remain natural after PCT for a good while before starting another cycle.
I have chosen the route of cruising and blasting, with HCG throughout all blasts and cruises, because I cannot get to where I want to be without doing so. I feel this is actually a better way to go if you are like me and find it hard to be off for the right amount if fime between cycles; rather than going back on too soon after PCT… There are risks involved of course.
Yeah recovery is my biggest and main care so I’ll be leaving the appropriate time between cycles. After some reading I also found it was recommended to count PCT as being on. I think it’ll be good for me to stick to this rule as if I start stacking later down the line I’ll be ensuring my recovery is optimal!
What is cruising and blasting? I’ve heard of bridging but not cruising or blasting?
I’m still doing my research. Have read that HCG should be administered once every 4 days and as you suggested should be stopped before PCT. Although yourselves suggested 3 x a week? There’s so much conflicting evidence everywhere haha!
Main thing is that you take it regularly enough to suit the half life, which 3 x week will do, use it during the cycle rather than blasting at the end and do not use it in high doses.
Ok thanks guys. So I want to be using HCG 3 times a week at 250iu per shot. I’ll update my plan, I’m writing everything down so I plan properly before doing anything.
Having read up on HCG, it appears it comes in a powdered form with the water for you to mix yourself? I’m off to read up more on that now too! Any input from you guys on that?