dbol has a pretty short half life so I am in the camp that you space them out throughout the day, with a little bit heavier dosage before training.
Op,
I think what you’re seeing here from various viewpoints and experience is that compounds, esp. orals, have slightly different results for everybody. It really believe it’s something you have to experiment with (sounds weird being your own lab rat).
Myself, I found no different results in Drol as opposed to DBol, besides Drol being over twice the $$. So it’s a more bang for the buck issue for me. I run “baby doses” to what others run. I figured this out over a 10 year period. I only run oral (DBol) as a kickstart to my Test E blasts (3-4 weeks depending on how my body feels).
I have talked about other compounds with Reed offline and for those who haven’t figured it out, he fucking knows what he is talking about. He’s also a freak! What works for him (any of us) may not be what works best for you. You really got to figure it out over time. Play with it a bit. But standard protocols are the best way to start.
S/F
Al
^^ Thanks. Like you stated I have heard wonders from a dbol/anavar synergy and I have personally talked with some ifbb pros down here that state you should run them seperately… run dbol to kickstart then switch over to anavar.
But I believe in experimenting. I fucking love dbol… addicted to it wish I could be on it all the time lol but I really want to try to run them both. If I feel loopy or off i’ll just drop the var and then run it later.
As to dosages throughout day I am thinking
I work out between 2-3pm…
7-10am 12.5dbol/25 var
1-2pm 25 dbol / 25 var
4-5pm 12.5 dbol / 25 var
For some reason I place importance on dose timing when on orals. I use to run just 25 dbol pre and 25 dbol post workout and call it a day.
I dont think it would make huge difference with the timing personally. I personally take everything in as few injections or handfuls as possible. Remembering to take something 3-4 times a day is just not good for me. I pretty much take all injectables on the same day no matter how much I am running and all orals pre workout or morning if not training. Just easier to remember and easier to deal with in my opinion. Plus I prefer a massive spike in effects rather smaller more constant ones.
Well then back to 25 dbol 50 var pre and 25 25 post lol.
Reed, I was the same as you until I got one of those handy pill dividers. I have two with 7 slots each. I take about 10 minutes and sort everything out that I need to take each day for the next two weeks. You can actually get them free with your order at supplement warehouse. I used to have a hard time keeping track of what I had taken throughout the day until I started doing it this way. The slots may not be big enough to fit all of your pills for each day though:)
Yeah when ever I did pills and tabs I used of those with decent success but, recently there is a huge popularity for oral suspensions and they are half the price for the tabs so I just go that route which kinda rules out the divider lol.
[quote]Reed wrote:
I dont think it would make huge difference with the timing personally. I personally take everything in as few injections or handfuls as possible. Remembering to take something 3-4 times a day is just not good for me. I pretty much take all injectables on the same day no matter how much I am running and all orals pre workout or morning if not training. Just easier to remember and easier to deal with in my opinion. Plus I prefer a massive spike in effects rather smaller more constant ones.[/quote]
I’m the same way.
Oral suspensions? I’m so “Old School” I wasn’t aware of this. Shit, when I started 16g and 18g 1.5" were standard. I use 23g 1" now and draw with the 18’s. Hard to believe I used to stab myself with those nails! You younger guys know way more than us old guys now.
S/F
Al
You guys that get that lethargy from dbol how do you combat it? I get extreme lethargy in the mornings when I run dbol. Literally wake up and will fall asleep sitting in my chair on the computer. Nothing seems to help. Shower for a long while, gets rid of tiredness for 10-15mins then lethargy sets back in. Eat big and lethargy goes away 10-20mins but sets right back in. Lethargy goes away around noon everyday.
Any tips on how to get over this lethargic side? I have to get up and work pretty early and it sucks being a zombie up until noon everyday.
[quote]CATMAL wrote:
I have talked about other compounds with Reed offline and for those who haven’t figured it out, he fucking knows what he is talking about. He’s also a freak!
Al[/quote]
Reed doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. im not trying to be a jerk, but everyone would do well to ignore his advice.
OP, I would strongly advise against using anavar. it is faked/counterfeited SO often that it’s really nonsensical to throw money away by trying to acquire it…
a gram of pharmaceutical-grade anavar costs well over $150 dollars, coming in 5mg tabs… and to think that you can get 25mg tabs?.. most certainly fake.
spend your money on something cheaper, (FAR) more effective, and real. My suggestion? superdrol from a raws source… about $4 a gram, no joke.
other than that, I would suggest using more testosterone… and an AI of course - my preference is letrozole… it’s the strongest - reducing estrogen by about 60%
[quote]nooberific wrote:
You guys that get that lethargy from dbol how do you combat it? I get extreme lethargy in the mornings when I run dbol. Literally wake up and will fall asleep sitting in my chair on the computer. Nothing seems to help. Shower for a long while, gets rid of tiredness for 10-15mins then lethargy sets back in. Eat big and lethargy goes away 10-20mins but sets right back in. Lethargy goes away around noon everyday.
Any tips on how to get over this lethargic side? I have to get up and work pretty early and it sucks being a zombie up until noon everyday.[/quote]
honestly, I’d just run something else. Not all drugs suit everyone. I’m lucky that I feel amazing on dbol and var, but any other oral I’ve tried fucks me right up.
[quote]nooberific wrote:
You guys that get that lethargy from dbol how do you combat it? I get extreme lethargy in the mornings when I run dbol. Literally wake up and will fall asleep sitting in my chair on the computer. Nothing seems to help. Shower for a long while, gets rid of tiredness for 10-15mins then lethargy sets back in. Eat big and lethargy goes away 10-20mins but sets right back in. Lethargy goes away around noon everyday.
Any tips on how to get over this lethargic side? I have to get up and work pretty early and it sucks being a zombie up until noon everyday.[/quote]
i think some of the effects of d-bol are due to effects of dopamine. most people feel energy and have an increase in mood on d-bol, but others are gonna get the paradoxical effect.
you might just take it in the evening, and see how that works… obviously it’s not ideal due to the half-life, but better if it doesn’t make you sleepy all day long…
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]CATMAL wrote:
I have talked about other compounds with Reed offline and for those who haven’t figured it out, he fucking knows what he is talking about. He’s also a freak!
Al[/quote]
Reed doesn’t have a clue what he is talking about. im not trying to be a jerk, but everyone would do well to ignore his advice.
OP, I would strongly advise against using anavar. it is faked/counterfeited SO often that it’s really nonsensical to throw money away by trying to acquire it…
a gram of pharmaceutical-grade anavar costs well over $150 dollars, coming in 5mg tabs… and to think that you can get 25mg tabs?.. most certainly fake.
spend your money on something cheaper, (FAR) more effective, and real. My suggestion? superdrol from a raws source… about $4 a gram, no joke.
other than that, I would suggest using more testosterone… and an AI of course - my preference is letrozole… it’s the strongest - reducing estrogen by about 60%
[/quote]
Lol glad to have ya back around ass hole.
Since you are on dbol…why not swap the var for a kit or 2 of hgh? You may get some nice size gains and less wear & tear on liver for same $$$ I find it combos well with high test…personally I like it simple 1 oil 1 oral 1 pep
I had 3 months worth of HGH soma at 4iu a day in my fridge and my bitch of a woman threw it away. All pharm grade… 3k down the drain.
[quote]Yogi wrote:
[quote]nooberific wrote:
You guys that get that lethargy from dbol how do you combat it? I get extreme lethargy in the mornings when I run dbol. Literally wake up and will fall asleep sitting in my chair on the computer. Nothing seems to help. Shower for a long while, gets rid of tiredness for 10-15mins then lethargy sets back in. Eat big and lethargy goes away 10-20mins but sets right back in. Lethargy goes away around noon everyday.
Any tips on how to get over this lethargic side? I have to get up and work pretty early and it sucks being a zombie up until noon everyday.[/quote]
honestly, I’d just run something else. Not all drugs suit everyone. I’m lucky that I feel amazing on dbol and var, but any other oral I’ve tried fucks me right up.[/quote]
I love dbol man. I would never try to run something else than it. I would rather suck it up and be a zombie for 4 weeks than not run it at all. Was just wondering if there was anything you guys would recommend taking… maybe a natural supp or anything that could counter the dopamine effect.
[quote]nooberific wrote:
I had 3 months worth of HGH soma at 4iu a day in my fridge and my bitch of a woman threw it away. All pharm grade… 3k down the drain.[/quote]
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wow. it’s been a long time since I’ve been utterly speechless
[quote]nooberific wrote:
I had 3 months worth of HGH soma at 4iu a day in my fridge and my bitch of a woman threw it away. All pharm grade… 3k down the drain.[/quote]
Oh man that really sucks…mine caught me too but new better than to toss my shit. I say throw all her make up & hair stuff away…its only fair
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
[quote]nooberific wrote:
I had 3 months worth of HGH soma at 4iu a day in my fridge and my bitch of a woman threw it away. All pharm grade… 3k down the drain.[/quote]
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wow. it’s been a long time since I’ve been utterly speechless [/quote]
What can I say brother… latin women.