Test and Deca, Lost Libido Unresponsive Dick and Emotionally Flat

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Any doctor that prescribes a benzodiazepine for DAILY, LONG term (more than 2-4 wks) use should be shot… they’re facilitating addiction/dependence that can be VERY hard to break… There are certain VERY occasional circumstances wherein long term use can be justified… but in general no…

Furthermore, for severe insomnia, benzodiazepines have been largely replaced with Z drugs (type of non benzodiazepine hypnotic)

Barbituates were initially the yeetfloopiest… the go to for insomnia/anxiety, but due to their wide array of pharmacological effects, extremely high predisensity for inducing addiction/dependence/high abuse potential and whatnot… were phased out by benzodiazepines

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I see people say this a lot and it mystifies me. I used Xanax practically every day for over a year and then one day just…stopped. No change at all. Had long stretches using Halcyon as well, same result. I wonder if there’s a genetic component to the level of addiction/dependence wrt benzos?

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I think it’s psychological dependence as well. I feel like I can’t fall asleep or stay asleep without a pill. What does xanax do for you? Does it help with sleep?. I’d love to stop what i’m on i tried it for one night and just took melatonin instead. My brain either stops me from transitioning into sleep state, brain ā€œzapsā€ me awake, muscle spasms, or hypnic jerk. I cant find the right professional to go to for help on the matter.

Depends on your dosage. Opiate withdrawal may make you feel like you’re going to die, but benzo withdrawal can give you brain seizures and actually kill you. You probably weren’t using very high amounts of it. There’s definitely a genetic component to addiction and dependence, but overall you probably weren’t using enough to elicit a heavy reaction.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. It’s been two months now he actually upped my dose from15mg to 30mg. He said ā€œwe need to have you get a good nights restā€. I’m going to tell him to start tapering me off. So your saying drugs like Ambien are being used as opposed to benzos for insomnia now?

Started at 1mg/d, by the 10 month mark I was at 2mg/d.

It’s funny, I stopped using it because it was starting to actually keep me awake. I was getting that jerk right before sleep, which is an interesting experience. So I stopped taking it, changed some sleep habits all at once, and had a nice stretch where I was fine. Then a few months later things got bad again and I used the Halcyon. Huuuuge difference. That stuff is magic for me. Great sleep, no morning grogginess, no issues. Eventually I stopped and just roughed it out until I could get myself back into a good sleep rhythm and I haven’t needed to take anything—absent once or twice over the last six months—and I sleep pretty well. Brains are weird.

No memory impairment either? I should probobly see a psych to get an evaluation for sleep medicine. This shits not working im only getting 5 hours with both meds.

On Xanax, none. On Halcyon I would get anterograde amnesia about 15 minutes after taking it. But when you’re getting right into bed it’s not really an issue.

You can try infrared sauna to detox/remove the nandrolone metabolites much faster.

I’ve actually had that issue with Tren, from which you always hear that tren makes you horny and beast mode libido, well for me it gave me the opposite, and lasted for weeks after quitting the tren.

Weird i always hear about deca dick, and about tren not having this issue, but ive experienced it with tren pretty badly.

Posting a detox protocol i got from an np. Hope this helps anyone that comes accross this issue. I think mines more of a brain issue rather than an issue from compound and being hypersensitive to meds. Continue weight training and cardio. Increase antioxidents in diet. @TRT_Phoenix phoenix mention of the sauna is a good idea as well going to implement that.

So i thought id give an update on whats been going on. My bodys recovering pretty quickly tbh. Test levels are in the 500 range lh and fsh are going up. Liver and kidney function are optimal (have some slightly foamy urine). My endo prescribed me clomid 25mg eod i havent taken it yet.
Sleep has gotten better without benzos taking cbd oil and natural sleep aid can get 5 to 6 hours of sleep which is a miracle.

Penis function- am getting morning erections libido has gotten better it takes me a little longer to get hard but i can id say about 90% but the boner still fades without constant stimulation. Its been 2 full months since being off everything btw.

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@unreal24278 Do either of you know if this does this go away with time? is there something that can be done to fix the issue? I’m still having issues, less sensitivity and difficulty getting/maintaining erections. I’ve read so much stating deca affects the vasodilation and NO levels. It’s like my john is dislocated from my body, very soft and flabby nothing like it was before cycle. Any way to displace dhn? I was feeling better mentally and my endo prescribed me 25 mg of clomid also some hcg. After starting its like things went backwards. No libido, erections go away quickly. Prolactin is in range.

It does appear to get better with time for most. It took me almost 6 months to get close to normalcy. I can’t say I’ve ever had the same libido as in my younger years or Pre-TRT even. Libido wasn’t an issue for me even with Low T. It was weird. Ever since I started TRT and then blasting my libido is hit or miss but strong enough to have sex often.

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Just to be clear were talking about the same physical issue right? Like its literally just hanging there and is softer than it was pre deca? Flex it and it doesnt move. giving it times the only way? I hear people say take caber but prolactins not an issue. Im sitting at a 6. I was told running a small dose of cialis ed at 5mg can help with bloodflow so i just started that. I cant imagine you just wake up one day and notice ā€œhey my dicks back to normalā€ lol or does it work that way. Im not too worried about libido as long as i can get it up im good for the sake of having a relationship later

Don’t take Cabergoline if you don’t have severely elevated prolactin levels (seems like you are aware of that already). That shit is nothing to play with. If it’s a neurotransmitter issue then it’s going to take time for things to get back to normal.

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Are you off the benzos?

Could it be that the SSRI gave you the ED? Standard side effect for them as you said you got it after your ex broke up…?

I can recommend melatonin. Struggled with bad insomnia last year for 3 months. Took benzos, got off. Melatonin at the right dosage did help me afterwards quite a bit. The right dosage seems to be important, for me it’s in the mcg range for me like 0.25 mg. Higher than 0.5 mg gives me wild dreams and higher than 1 mg gives me hypoglycemia so I wake up after 6 hours.

Good luck to you.