Really appreciate the positivity brother. I’m doing exactly that and having faith. I used to be such a realist and gave up on faith altogether to be honest. After this experience if given the chance and my body and brain does come back to me i’ll have one fucking hell of a comeback story.
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Unfortunately for me, I’m an over responder to any form of medication. There is no doubt that it’s a great compound if used correctly, personally, if I do manage to recover I’m never touching steroids again (but if I did I’d stay away from anything progestin). If you have no mental health issues and are in a truly good spot in life I think the results would be great.
So many reasons for deca dick you can’t even pinpoint it I’d look into @KSman and his information on any cycle. I wish I had before taking any type of agent. Idk why it took me this long in life to become self-aware of everything but unfortunately it did. Taking any anabolic agent with an underlying mental health issue magnifies it (depression, anxiety, OCD, bipolar, etc.) Now I have one of three options. Give up or Try my fucking hardest to reverse the damage I’ve done or accepted things for what they are and be grateful for the things I have in life. Again never giving up faith.
From my manic research this is what I’ve gathered, there’s several possibilities for deca dick/ libido sometimes it’s not even deca dick (if you’d even call it that) and an entirely new compound at play
1- Dhn displacing DHT from androgen receptors
2- E2 imbalance
3- Excess Prolactin
4- Progestin
5- Anything related to testosterone or just about all hormones
6- Neurotransmitter’s become affected (norepinephrine serotonin dopamine) Brain dick connection (similar to SSRIs, which I was prescribed and stopped due to the breakup)
7- Cardiovascular issues from taking the steroids.
If anyone is thinking about doing a cycle, again I cannot reiterate enough, look up @KSman and the information he provides about doing it properly. Also, watch the anabolic doc on youtube, he provides a lot of insightful information on how the agents affect the brain, cardiovascular, endocrine and central nervous system.
Probably not, firstly DHT has a higher binding affinity to the AR comparative to DHT, now some compounds have site specific affinities (very high) to certain target tissues… but I don’t believe this to be the case here. The amount of nandrolone you’d have to take to cause AR displacement (super saturation with DHN) would be exorbitant, as while on AAS more AR’s are synthesised, thus theoretically one could somehow take a dosage high enough to saturate AR’s at a faster rate then they’re synthesised…
No, and KSMAN left… a LOT of his advice was inherently harmful, if you’re following the “1mg of adex per 100mg test”… that could very well be why you’re not feeling so great.
Perhaps, depends on dose
What?
Most likely…
Deca may induce cardiomyopathy and/or fibrous tissue formation within the myocardium, but the impact on lipids/pro oxidive state is minimal comparative to many other compounds… To acquire atherosclerosis severe enough to reduce blood flow to extremities you’d have to take a fuck ton for a very long time. Cardiomyopathy could also cause this if the heart can’t pump blood to certain tissues adequately… however if you’ve got heart failure then you’d be an idiot to be taking deca of all steroids.
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First off, thanks for the valuable data and corrections. Very informative. Never had any heart issues but have noticed cold hands feet and dick (like winter dick) reduced bloodflow for sure. If you have any recommendations to start going in the right direction i’d appreciate the help. Going to be doing cardio, heavy antioxidants and moderate weight training in the meantime.
How old are you?
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No mention of caber? Why not take cabergoline its dirt cheap & prevents deca/tren d ?? Pretty standard stuff when running npp, tren, or deca
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27 y.o.
Arent they used to lower prolactin? Mines sitting at a 3
Yes it wouldn’t help unless prolactin was the issue and usually its not.
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Really thinking about seeuing a nuero.
I feel for you. I had the same experience using Deca with almost identical symptoms. It took awhile for mine to go away as well. In fact I would dare to say my libido is still not as strong as it was and its been two years. Cialis helped me through it until my hormones/neurological aspect corrected themselves. This is why I always strongly recommend folks reconsider Deca/Tren. I think guys like you and me are in the minority but its still prevalent enough not to warrant the risk.
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do you only run test? Or do you stack others with it?
The only injectables I run are test and masteron, however I would try primo. Orals… dbol, tbol, and var. I’m not saying these are ‘safe’ by any means they just seem friendlier to the risk of libido issues. Although I’ve heard recently that some people get hit with libido lowering on Var.
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fav combo of those and dosage if you dont mind sharing? Was thinking of trying deca but this thread just killed that idea
I started this cycle at 500mg Test Cyp and then added 300mg Mast Prop after 4 weeks with tbol 50mg ed. My tbol was sketch though so I dropped it. I also recently lowered the test to 300mg week as I was getting high E2 sides but don’t like running an AI or even Nolva if I don’t have to. I think for future I’m sticking with 300mg Test (likely prop next time) / 300mg Mast and an oral. 7-8 weeks.
I agree. The insomnia i have now is so bad my dr prescriped me temazepam and trazadone. Side effects of ai cause insomnie hormones cause insomnia and nuerological/mental disorders cause insomnia. My plan is to fix my sleeping problems so i can fix the hormones so i can restoresleep and fix whatever memory problems i have. Im just so confused on which order to go in and the approach to take. Fuckin hate my dr i wish he never put me on that ssri. This is where it all started and my poor judgement.
So just taking caber prevents deca dick? I’ve never heard that. I doubt it’s that simple.
@georgeyy125
There’s reports of guys taking deca several times prior without getting deca dick and then all of a sudden they have an unlucky cycle and fucked for years.
I beleive it has something to do with the dopamine/seratonin receptors. Life factors also play a huge roll. Nobody is at a 10 all day so maybe they were in a dark place and started the cycle? Idk. I feel like i’m on an ssri right now just flat. zero motivation to do anything. (could be from the hundred other health problems I’m having and little to no test). It takes a long time to recover from if that. Time is really my best friend here. And staying optimistic. One problem at a time.
