Hi Guys so I have just finished my first cycle and to be honest it wasn’t a massive success but I have learnt a lot from it and haven’t screwed myself up in the process.
I had a blood test at the very end of the cycle and all the right things were elevated and then at the end of the pct and everything has nearly normalised so I’m thinking months clean and then crack back on with my 2nd, that sound ok? I plan to get one more blood test in a month to make sure everything has normalised.
I think where I went wrong was Tren as for the first time in my life it made it a struggle to eat enough of the right foods, a problem I don’t normally have. With this in mind I have opted for a much milder Boldenone this time and my proposed 2nd cycle is below.
Cycle 2
Testosterone Enanthate
Week 1 1000mg
Week 2-12 500mg
Boldenone Undecylenate
Week 1-2 1200mg
Week 3-10 600mg
Doses split into 2 pins per week (4 during frontload as I have to separate the Bold and Test)
Ancillaries
Arimidex
Week 2-14 0.5mg 3 x per week
Week 15 0.5mg twice
HCG
Week 4-13 250iu 3 x per week
Week 14 500 IU twice
PCT
Week 15-18 Nolvadex 40\30\20\10 mg Per Day (4\3\2\1 tabs)
Week 15-19 Clomid 100\50\50\50\25 mg Per Day (2\1\1\1\0.5 tabs)
What do you guys think? My starting stats are 72 inches tall, 185lb and 9% body fat. My goal is 200lb at 8% body fat is that realistic with this cycle?
Sam I think you need to look at your training and nutrition. I know you said tren made it hard to eat the right food but, at 6ft tall and only 185lbs after a run with Test,Tren, Peptides and some others if I’m not mistaken something is greatly off.
My nutrition and training is usually bang on but while I was on the Tren it made me feel sick constantly so it was such a struggle to get clean dry foods down my nutrition was first it has been in years and my training suffered because of how rough it made me feel which the bad nutrition didn’t really help. I made it up to 195lb on the cycle but then got really ill and couldn’t eat for 3 days after and lost 10lbs during pct.
My training is now back on and nutrition is good again so I’m thinking get on the boldenone and shouldn’t have eating or rough feeling problem with that, is my thinking logical? You run boldenone don’t you?
Ok just make sure your doing what needs to be done and not just hoping the drugs carry you.
I love EQ one of favorites has to be run for almost 2 months to really start noticing it so if your gonna run it do it for atleast 20 weeks just my opinion. Eq makes me very hungry so its def a pro if you have a hard time eating. If you can afford it I would run 200-300mg of Deca with it as well they wanders together.
Ye no worries I’m sure if it weren’t for the eating thing on tren I woulda kept alot more.
I remember you saying about EQ before which is why I picked it, I dont normally have trouble eating but after the tren the appetite boost is definitely a pro for me, I have read it needs to be run a while but also that if you frontload it then it doesn’t need to be run aslong I was planning on doing this for first two weeks and running it for 10 like above what do you think?
Deca is something I wanna try one day for definite but think Ill try just EQ and test first then add deca next time like you have it above because it is 19nor like tren and id like to run a cycle without one this time.
I’m going with 600 eq like you said but only 500 test dont think i need to go with a gram yet do I? Although i am.gonna run a gram first week to front load the test as well so i get more out of the 12 weeks.
I have a hard time believing that everything else you’ve got going on is dialed in if you couldn’t grow on test/tren. I know you said your diet was an issue but what’s to say that won’t happen again? How did you measure you bodyfat% I always feel like people are much more generous than they should be when posting here.
I did grow, I put on 15lb on a 10 week cycle of test with only 8 on tren but I lost 10lb of it post cycle.
There is no guarantee that it wont happen again but since Tren effects some people like that and eq doesn’t I’m going to take a chance.
Body fat is with calipers and scoobys online calculator but I add an extra 2ml to all measurements as I feel based on pictures etc it is more accurate that way.
Main question I have is based on my proposed cycle is the Arimidex too high? I don’t want to risk estrogen related sides but also don’t want to inhibit gains.
arimidex will not inhibit gains. Not sure why so many people seem to think that.
If your E gets too low your libido’ll go to hell and your joints’ll get a bit achey, but it’s easy enough to fix. You just lower the dose. The libido loss/achey joints come on gradually as well so if you’re aware of it you can catch it before it gets bad.
Run your AI at .5mg eod and adjust accordingly in the case of sides
That’s what I planned to do I noticed achey joints last cycle for a week at the very beginning so am gonna start the adex a week later this time, not sure where it comes from but have seen a few people say it inhibits gains if your e gets driven too low, not sure how factual that is though.
Injectable B12 believe it or not is a prescription drug only in the UK so cant buy it and because you can everywhere else the UG labs don’t bother making it or selling it.
[quote]Sam_Boy wrote:
That’s what I planned to do I noticed achey joints last cycle for a week at the very beginning so am gonna start the adex a week later this time, not sure where it comes from but have seen a few people say it inhibits gains if your e gets driven too low, not sure how factual that is though.
Injectable B12 believe it or not is a prescription drug only in the UK so cant buy it and because you can everywhere else the UG labs don’t bother making it or selling it.[/quote]
instead of starting the adex later, just lower the dose.
I haven’t got any anavar got some dbol and methyltestosterone tabs but heard they are pretty useless, is the 14 week EQ thing based on without the front load? I tried to lower dosage last time but chopping the tabs in quarters just breaks them I find.
That’s a good idea I need to get myself a pill cutter I think. Any recommendations on the kind of one to use as amazon seems to have most of theirs with bad reviews.
From what I read dbol and methyltestosterone would just give water gains if added to the cycle but I have them for free so may as well use them when in the cycle would you recommend and what dosing? I have dbol 30 x 10mg and methyltestosterone 60 x 25mg
I bought a pill cutter off ebay for like £2 and it works a charm. I think they’re all much of a muchness really.
Personally I can’t say I’d run the methyltest, sorry I got confused and thought you meant M1T. I often get the two confused.
You’ve only got enough dbol for ten days at 30mg? That’s weak man, get more. Lots more. Run it for the first 4 weeks at 40mg a day (20mg about an hour pre workout, 10mg twice more during the day) and enjoy rapid size and strength gains. Yes, you may hold a little water on it but if you use your AI (which you definitely should with dbol, it aromatises like a bitch) then it’ll hardly be anything you notice. It builds a lot of muscle mass very quickly. The gains are definitely NOT all water, trust me.
Dbol is one of the cheapest steroids to buy so you should be able to get a load more for not very much at all.
The great thing about a 4 weeks kickstart with dbol is that you’ll have a significant size and strength gain by the second week of your cycle. Very motivating.
Ye my thoughts exactly that dbol I don’t have enough of and the methyltest sounds like its pretty much worthless, these are freebies my supplier always puts one in with the package so I may just save them and let them accumulate to be honest as the plan was to run bold and test anyway and I want to see what the frontload is like and if I frontload with dbol its going to change that isn’t it. Thanks for the advice anyway mate and I will definitely be getting a pill cutter.