Teen Taking AI

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Hey guys,

I’m a young guy looking into purchasing an AI. I’m going to be recovering from a bilateral varicocele surgery soon, and I am interested in taking an AI to boost LH and FSH to get my testicles functioning 100% again faster, and hasten the catch-up-growth period of my testicles. Also, considering I’m still in puberty, any possible virilizing effects of the boosted T would be welcomed.

I’ve also heard that AI can make a person who’s growth plates haven’t closed taller, since estrogen causes bone maturation, and taking AI will keep those growth plates open longer.

Truth is though, I’m not sure I’m still in puberty. I’m 16 but 2 years ago my doctor said my growth plates were almost closed. I’m a tanner scale 5 person too. Always was an early bloomer. But still, boosted T and testicle recovery would be great.

Are there any risks associated with this approach? I’ve ruled out SERMs due to causing premature bone maturation, but AIs seem to be pretty amazing. My understanding is that there is no HPTA suppression, it just goes into overdrive because the hypothalamus sees little estrogen and starts making extra GnRH. Would I experience a fall when I came off the AI?

EDIT: By experiencing a fall after taking the AI, I mean would T drop to levels lower than before I started the AI? Would this permanently affect my estrogen levels negatively? Also, if it’s worth anything, I’ve had very very mild gyno for a few years. I know AIs are used in teens sometimes to treat gyno, so maybe I do have an estrogen surplus and can justify using an AI that way as well? Nobody has ever said anything about the gyno, but there is a small amount of fat deposit there, and the gland underneath is a small palpable lump.

Thanks guys!

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[quote]Ray567 wrote:
Hey guys,

I’m a young guy looking into purchasing an AI. I’m going to be recovering from a bilateral varicocele surgery soon, and I am interested in taking an AI to boost LH and FSH to get my testicles functioning 100% again faster, and hasten the catch-up-growth period of my testicles. Also, considering I’m still in puberty, any possible virilizing effects of the boosted T would be welcomed.

I’ve also heard that AI can make a person who’s growth plates haven’t closed taller, since estrogen causes bone maturation, and taking AI will keep those growth plates open longer.

Truth is though, I’m not sure I’m still in puberty. I’m 16 but 2 years ago my doctor said my growth plates were almost closed. I’m a tanner scale 5 person too. Always was an early bloomer. But still, boosted T and testicle recovery would be great.

Are there any risks associated with this approach? I’ve ruled out SERMs due to causing premature bone maturation, but AIs seem to be pretty amazing. My understanding is that there is no HPTA suppression, it just goes into overdrive because the hypothalamus sees little estrogen and starts making extra GnRH. Would I experience a fall when I came off the AI?

EDIT: By experiencing a fall after taking the AI, I mean would T drop to levels lower than before I started the AI? Would this permanently affect my estrogen levels negatively? Also, if it’s worth anything, I’ve had very very mild gyno for a few years. I know AIs are used in teens sometimes to treat gyno, so maybe I do have an estrogen surplus and can justify using an AI that way as well? Nobody has ever said anything about the gyno, but there is a small amount of fat deposit there, and the gland underneath is a small palpable lump.

Thanks guys![/quote]

AI at that age can cause premature fusing of your bone plates and all sorts of odd things.

You are supposed to have a little gyno as a teenager. It means you are making a lot of test. If worried about it, decrease carbs, get lean and it should go away.

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Do not do it…it is incredibly risk for little benefit

But its good you are getting this issue taken care of early–there are guys on the TRT forum who have that condition and swear it has led them to have low T, even though the docs don’t think so.

My advice: forego the AI, but have them perform bloodwork both before and after to monitor your T levels and such so that you can ensure you recover plus give yourself a baseline in case you run into problems in the future.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

AI at that age can cause premature fusing of your bone plates and all sorts of odd things.

You are supposed to have a little gyno as a teenager. It means you are making a lot of test. If worried about it, decrease carbs, get lean and it should go away.[/quote]

I thought it was only SERMs that cause premature fusion, by saturating the estrogen receptors in bones? AIs are supposed to keep the plates open, since estrogen causes the fusion of growth plates, and AIs keep that e level low.

It’s not unheard of for doctors to prescribe a cycle of a-dex for kids with ISS to see if they can grow taller with it, before they consider growth hormone therapy, IGF-1, etc. At the bottom I’ll attach a study on AIs and height.

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Do not do it…it is incredibly risk for little benefit

But its good you are getting this issue taken care of early–there are guys on the TRT forum who have that condition and swear it has led them to have low T, even though the docs don’t think so.

My advice: forego the AI, but have them perform bloodwork both before and after to monitor your T levels and such so that you can ensure you recover plus give yourself a baseline in case you run into problems in the future.[/quote]

Thanks for the advice. My urologist is doing T, LH, FSH, and TSH before and after the surgery. Right now I’m just waiting for the appointment - very eager.

But I do want to ask, what is the “incredible risk” I’m taking if I take AI at this age? Not taking into account the surgery, boosting my testosterone at this age is very interesting to me, considering certain masculine traits don’t stop developing until the 20s, and they are regulated by T and DHT. DHT I’m already trying to increase with creatine.

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The risk is unknown manipulation of the HPTA. You are developing at this point and it is probably better not to mess with the natural course of things unless there is good reason to do so.

Overly conservative? Perhaps…but prudent nonetheless.