[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]dmaddox wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
And if that’s the case when I crack an egg I should be guilty of animal cruelty. [/quote]
PETA says you are.
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You can eat an egg and you can eat a chicken so, probably not the best analogy. [/quote]
I don’t know anyone that eats a human fetus, but cannibalism still happens.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
A zygote is not a human. [/quote]
What exactly is it then?[/quote]
A zygote. [/quote]
lol, if I didn’t know you were smart, this post would make you look like a fool.
Zecarlo and Pitt in 1830:
“Black people aren’t human. They are black. Put em back in chains, it is your silly religion that makes you want to free them.”
Guys, honestly, if the aborted fetus was homosexual, you would be pro-life right, because that is discrimination?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
An embryo is not a human. A zygote is not a human. [/quote]
Substantiate this please. So far Pat is the only one who has backed up their position in this thread, and he has done it a couple times. [/quote]
What makes a human, a human? From a biological standpoint how is a zygote a human or a person? Can it do what people do? What biological functions can it perform? Define what a person is and see if a zygote can meet that criteria.
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Zecarlo and Pitt in 1830:
“Black people aren’t human. They are black. Put em back in chains, it is your silly religion that makes you want to free them.”
Guys, honestly, if the aborted fetus was homosexual, you would be pro-life right, because that is discrimination?[/quote]
That makes no sense as religion was used to justify slavery.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
An embryo is not a human. A zygote is not a human. [/quote]
Substantiate this please. So far Pat is the only one who has backed up their position in this thread, and he has done it a couple times. [/quote]
What makes a human, a human? From a biological standpoint how is a zygote a human or a person? Can it do what people do? What biological functions can it perform? Define what a person is and see if a zygote can meet that criteria.
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
You said:
A zygote is not a human
I asked:
Substantiate that claim please
You:
Apparently can’t
SOund about right?
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Zecarlo and Pitt in 1830:
“Black people aren’t human. They are black. Put em back in chains, it is your silly religion that makes you want to free them.”
Guys, honestly, if the aborted fetus was homosexual, you would be pro-life right, because that is discrimination?[/quote]
That makes no sense as religion was used to justify slavery. [/quote]
Quite telling that you point out the religious notation, and ignore the whole part about how both you, Pitt and the rest of the murder supporters have no problem with pretending humans aren’t human for your own justification and rationalization.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
Well, lets see. Jordy Nelson can run fast, catch footballs and score touchdowns. You can’t… Therefore you aren’t human and should be murdered via vacuum.
Great rationale you are supporting there.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
A zygote is not a human. [/quote]
What exactly is it then?[/quote]
A zygote. [/quote]
And what is a zygote?
A pre-human species?
A sub-human species?
A parasite (that seems to be popular)? [/quote]
What is a finger? An eye? A rock? A drop of water? A hydrogen atom? A zygote is a zygote. It’s a single cell formed by a sperm and egg. Is a sperm cell therefore a “pre-human” species?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
Well, lets see. Jordy Nelson can run fast, catch footballs and score touchdowns. You can’t… Therefore you aren’t human and should be murdered via vacuum.
Great rationale you are supporting there. [/quote]
Again, that makes no sense and is simply you avoiding the questions.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
Well, lets see. Jordy Nelson can run fast, catch footballs and score touchdowns. You can’t… Therefore you aren’t human and should be murdered via vacuum.
Great rationale you are supporting there. [/quote]
Again, that makes no sense and is simply you avoiding the questions. [/quote]
No, I’m waiting to answer your questions until you substantiate your claim that a zygote isn’t human.
You made the claim, not I.
And it makes perfect sense, you just don’t see it because it hurts your rationalization.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
An embryo is not a human. A zygote is not a human. [/quote]
Substantiate this please. So far Pat is the only one who has backed up their position in this thread, and he has done it a couple times. [/quote]
What makes a human, a human? From a biological standpoint how is a zygote a human or a person? Can it do what people do? What biological functions can it perform? Define what a person is and see if a zygote can meet that criteria.
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
You said:
A zygote is not a human
I asked:
Substantiate that claim please
You:
Apparently can’t
SOund about right? [/quote]
The thing is, I don’t need to substantiate it. It’s up to anti-abortionists to prove otherwise.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
Can a 35 year old left comatose due to a car accident do these things?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
Can a 35 year old left comatose due to a car accident do these things? [/quote]
He did at one point unlike a zygote.
If a zygote is a person, and it dies, do we need a death certificate?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
Well, lets see. Jordy Nelson can run fast, catch footballs and score touchdowns. You can’t… Therefore you aren’t human and should be murdered via vacuum.
Great rationale you are supporting there. [/quote]
Again, that makes no sense and is simply you avoiding the questions. [/quote]
No, I’m waiting to answer your questions until you substantiate your claim that a zygote isn’t human.
You made the claim, not I. [/quote]
if it is a human zygote , by all means it is human just as but if it is another animal then it is not
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
From a conceptual standpoint what can a zygote do that a person can do? Can it think? Is it self-aware? Does it have emotions? [/quote]
Well, lets see. Jordy Nelson can run fast, catch footballs and score touchdowns. You can’t… Therefore you aren’t human and should be murdered via vacuum.
Great rationale you are supporting there. [/quote]
Again, that makes no sense and is simply you avoiding the questions. [/quote]
No, I’m waiting to answer your questions until you substantiate your claim that a zygote isn’t human.
You made the claim, not I. [/quote]
I didn’t make the claim, the dictionary and the law did. According to the law a zygote is not a person. It may be a human organism but that doesn’t mean it’s a person.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
If a zygote is a person, and it dies, do we need a death certificate? [/quote]
That is the point they will not claim a single cell is a person , they claim it is a human being a s by definition a sperm is also
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
What is a finger?
[/quote]
Part of a person.
[quote] An eye?
[/quote]
Part of a person
Depends
H2O
An element
Which is an Enlgish word use to describe the beginning stages of A HUMAN…It is not the mothers finger or the fathers eye. It is distinct from both.
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It’s a single cell formed by a sperm and egg. Is a sperm cell therefore a “pre-human” species? [/quote]
No, a sperm cell, is a sperm cell 