[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
Playing devils advocate here, where did the first cell come from? [/quote]
How far back do you want to go? [/quote]
To the very first 1.
I was taught cell theory 101 is all cells come from previously existing cells. Where did the 1st one come from?
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
By definition, God cannot come from anything. Something caused cannot be uncaused, therefore if ‘God’ came from something ‘He’ wouldn’t be God. Feel free to start a thread about the existence of God if you wish, this is not the place for it. It will be a massive hijack of the thread about abortion.[/quote]
But you brought up God. [/quote]
Well, to be fair, it was actually our Australian friend that brought God up.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
By definition, God cannot come from anything. Something caused cannot be uncaused, therefore if ‘God’ came from something ‘He’ wouldn’t be God. Feel free to start a thread about the existence of God if you wish, this is not the place for it. It will be a massive hijack of the thread about abortion.[/quote]
But you brought up God. [/quote]
Well, to be fair, it was actually our Australian friend that brought God up. [/quote]
Every anti-abortion post has God present.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
By definition, God cannot come from anything. Something caused cannot be uncaused, therefore if ‘God’ came from something ‘He’ wouldn’t be God. Feel free to start a thread about the existence of God if you wish, this is not the place for it. It will be a massive hijack of the thread about abortion.[/quote]
But you brought up God. [/quote]
Well, to be fair, it was actually our Australian friend that brought God up. [/quote]
Every anti-abortion post has God present. [/quote]
No they don’t. Not a single one of my posts has anything to do with God. At all.
Edit: Sentence structure.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
Playing devils advocate here, where did the first cell come from? [/quote]
How far back do you want to go? [/quote]
To the very first 1.
I was taught cell theory 101 is all cells come from previously existing cells. Where did the 1st one come from?[/quote]
I meant how far back when it comes to the first cell. Do we start with the individual elements and molecules and start from there? I think it would be easier to just Google the evolution of cells.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
By definition, God cannot come from anything. Something caused cannot be uncaused, therefore if ‘God’ came from something ‘He’ wouldn’t be God. Feel free to start a thread about the existence of God if you wish, this is not the place for it. It will be a massive hijack of the thread about abortion.[/quote]
But you brought up God. [/quote]
No I didn’t, cry-ogen did.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
By definition, God cannot come from anything. Something caused cannot be uncaused, therefore if ‘God’ came from something ‘He’ wouldn’t be God. Feel free to start a thread about the existence of God if you wish, this is not the place for it. It will be a massive hijack of the thread about abortion.[/quote]
But you brought up God. [/quote]
Well, to be fair, it was actually our Australian friend that brought God up. [/quote]
Every anti-abortion post has God present. [/quote]
No they don’t. Not a single one of my posts has anything to do with God. At all.
Edit: Sentence structure. [/quote]
Are you saying that your position is not influenced at all by your religious beliefs?
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
By definition, God cannot come from anything. Something caused cannot be uncaused, therefore if ‘God’ came from something ‘He’ wouldn’t be God. Feel free to start a thread about the existence of God if you wish, this is not the place for it. It will be a massive hijack of the thread about abortion.[/quote]
But you brought up God. [/quote]
Well, to be fair, it was actually our Australian friend that brought God up. [/quote]
Every anti-abortion post has God present. [/quote]
No they don’t. Not a single one of my posts has anything to do with God. At all.
Edit: Sentence structure. [/quote]
Are you saying that your position is not influenced at all by your religious beliefs? [/quote]
Is yours?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
Playing devils advocate here, where did the first cell come from? [/quote]
From nucleic acids, water and phospholipids.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
Playing devils advocate here, where did the first cell come from? [/quote]
How far back do you want to go? [/quote]
To the very first 1.
I was taught cell theory 101 is all cells come from previously existing cells. Where did the 1st one come from?[/quote]
I meant how far back when it comes to the first cell. Do we start with the individual elements and molecules and start from there? I think it would be easier to just Google the evolution of cells. [/quote]
Whatever it takes to explain how all cells come from previously existing cells except the first one. Seems like a pretty big whole to me.
Are molecules still evolving into cells?
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
By definition, God cannot come from anything. Something caused cannot be uncaused, therefore if ‘God’ came from something ‘He’ wouldn’t be God. Feel free to start a thread about the existence of God if you wish, this is not the place for it. It will be a massive hijack of the thread about abortion.[/quote]
But you brought up God. [/quote]
Well, to be fair, it was actually our Australian friend that brought God up. [/quote]
Every anti-abortion post has God present. [/quote]
No they don’t. Not a single one of my posts has anything to do with God. At all.
Edit: Sentence structure. [/quote]
Are you saying that your position is not influenced at all by your religious beliefs? [/quote]
Yes, it has nothing to do with my religious beliefs.
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
Playing devils advocate here, where did the first cell come from? [/quote]
From nucleic acids, water and phospholipids.[/quote]
Does this still happen? Is it observable?
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
By definition, God cannot come from anything. Something caused cannot be uncaused, therefore if ‘God’ came from something ‘He’ wouldn’t be God. Feel free to start a thread about the existence of God if you wish, this is not the place for it. It will be a massive hijack of the thread about abortion.[/quote]
But you brought up God. [/quote]
Well, to be fair, it was actually our Australian friend that brought God up. [/quote]
Every anti-abortion post has God present. [/quote]
No they don’t. Not a single one of my posts has anything to do with God. At all.
Edit: Sentence structure. [/quote]
Are you saying that your position is not influenced at all by your religious beliefs? [/quote]
Is yours?[/quote]
My position on the legality is not based on any religious belief however my position on abortion is. I don’t believe that in a pluralistic society my religious beliefs should be forced upon others. That’s why the US is better off than the ME.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
Playing devils advocate here, where did the first cell come from? [/quote]
How far back do you want to go? [/quote]
To the very first 1.
I was taught cell theory 101 is all cells come from previously existing cells. Where did the 1st one come from?[/quote]
I meant how far back when it comes to the first cell. Do we start with the individual elements and molecules and start from there? I think it would be easier to just Google the evolution of cells. [/quote]
Here’s an interesting paper on the subject.
I distinctly remember sitting Bio 201 learning about the 3 or 4 (can’t remember) tenants of cell theory, one of which was all cells come from previously existing cells. The question was asked, “where did the first cell(s) come from?” The answer was basically, we aren’t sure.
I have no idea, my knowledge of biology & chemistry is basic at best.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
Playing devils advocate here, where did the first cell come from? [/quote]
From nucleic acids, water and phospholipids.[/quote]
Does this still happen? Is it observable?[/quote]
Yes. See the link.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Whatever it takes to explain how all cells come from previously existing cells except the first one. Seems like a pretty big whole to me.
Are molecules still evolving into cells? [/quote]
How is it a big hole? How do we have water (H2O)? The idea that atoms can form molecules is a stretch? What are cells made of?
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]pat wrote:
you’re an atheistic asslick who believes that something can come from nothing. [/quote]
What did God come from? [/quote]
Playing devils advocate here, where did the first cell come from? [/quote]
How far back do you want to go? [/quote]
To the very first 1.
I was taught cell theory 101 is all cells come from previously existing cells. Where did the 1st one come from?[/quote]
I meant how far back when it comes to the first cell. Do we start with the individual elements and molecules and start from there? I think it would be easier to just Google the evolution of cells. [/quote]
Here’s an interesting paper on the subject.
http://www.biology.iupui.edu/biocourses/N100/ch8life.html[/quote]
Am reading now, thanks.
The problem with religious people is that they equate evolution and cell evolution with atheism when they don’t necessarily deny the existence of God. The Catholic Church has accepted evolution.
[quote]zecarlo wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Whatever it takes to explain how all cells come from previously existing cells except the first one. Seems like a pretty big whole to me.
Are molecules still evolving into cells? [/quote]
How is it a big hole? How do we have water (H2O)? The idea that atoms can form molecules is a stretch? What are cells made of? [/quote]
No, the stretch is:
All cells come from previously existing cells
The first cells came from_______?
Obviously at a very basic level everything is made of molecules. Why do we not see (according to Varq’s link it is, but I haven’t gotten there yet) cell formation occurring naturally (and at random) now?