[quote]countingbeans wrote:
How is not being allowed to live their own life best for the child?
How?[/quote]
that is a good question 
Itās life does have possibilities even if born in the worst circumstances but if it were born to wrong person it would grow up with out knowing the joys that childrenās lives should be . It could grow up immediately addicted to drugs , it could be a child prostitute , it could be sexually abused. A good mother would not want to bring a child into hell . And the mother should know best
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I donāt know what else can be said. Iāll never understand how no life is > bad life. Death is permanent. A shitty childhood lasts for what 15-18 years of a life that will likely last 75 or so.
Life offers the opportunity to turn an awful childhood into something great. Death offers nothing. [/quote]
I have seen some miraculous transformations but in reality most that stay with mom in these Hells do not transform.
I have a cousin that took 2 crack babies ( man was she castigated by the family ) but she raised these boy and girl to be great kids . They did start their life on a ventilator though .
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
close a Zygote and if it develops ,it becomes a child and as it becomes older it becomes an adult and as itās life winds down it becomes elderly and it eventually becomes a corpse hope that helps
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lol, so your asinine fabricated line of bullshit you are pulling directly out of your ass somehow makes a child not a child until you want to call it a child? Okay, that makes tons of sense. Would that happen to be because if you were to actually acknowledge that it is a person being vacuumed out of mommy tummy you would have ot admit you support murder?
Let me ask you this: is a zygote a living human?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I donāt know what else can be said. Iāll never understand how no life is > bad life. Death is permanent. A shitty childhood lasts for what 15-18 years of a life that will likely last 75 or so.
Life offers the opportunity to turn an awful childhood into something great. Death offers nothing. [/quote]
I have seen some miraculous transformations but in reality most that stay with mom in these Hells do not transform.
I have a cousin that took 2 crack babies ( man was she castigated by the family ) but she raised these boy and girl to be great kids . They did start their life on a ventilator though .
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As far as I know, thereās no way to tell which will overcome their circumstance and which will not, so shouldnāt all be given the opportunity to overcome?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
close a Zygote and if it develops ,it becomes a child and as it becomes older it becomes an adult and as itās life winds down it becomes elderly and it eventually becomes a corpse hope that helps
[/quote]
lol, so your asinine fabricated line of bullshit you are pulling directly out of your ass somehow makes a child not a child until you want to call it a child? Okay, that makes tons of sense. Would that happen to be because if you were to actually acknowledge that it is a person being vacuumed out of mommy tummy you would have ot admit you support murder?
Let me ask you this: is a zygote a living human?[/quote]
yes , a sperm is human and alive
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ruined Lives: Falling Into The Gang Culture - YouTube [/quote]
Kids with two loving parents living in the suburbs end up in gangs.
Kids with 1 poor mom living in the inner city end up surgeons.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
How is not being allowed to live their own life best for the child?
How?[/quote]
that is a good question Itās life does have possibilities even if born in the worst circumstances but if it were born to wrong person it would grow up with out knowing the joys that childrenās lives should be . It could grow up immediately addicted to drugs , it could be a child prostitute , it could be sexually abused. A good mother would not want to bring a child into hell . And the mother should know best
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So your solution is to just murder the child and be done with it?
http://bit.ly/17TWAAf
That link should be right up your alley.
Iāve got no problem with a woman making a decision not to bring a child into this word IF that child hasnāt been created yet.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
close a Zygote and if it develops ,it becomes a child and as it becomes older it becomes an adult and as itās life winds down it becomes elderly and it eventually becomes a corpse hope that helps
[/quote]
lol, so your asinine fabricated line of bullshit you are pulling directly out of your ass somehow makes a child not a child until you want to call it a child? Okay, that makes tons of sense. Would that happen to be because if you were to actually acknowledge that it is a person being vacuumed out of mommy tummy you would have ot admit you support murder?
Let me ask you this: is a zygote a living human?[/quote]
yes , a sperm is human and alive [/quote]
So you admit a zygote is a living human. (Please note word order here, your sperm strawman is the worst possible attempt at a rebuttal, so drop it.)
If a zygote is a living human, would ending its life not be killing it?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Iāve got no problem with a woman making a decision not to bring a child into this word IF that child hasnāt been created yet. [/quote]
Pitt doesnāt think it is a child until it can roll a joint.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Ruined Lives: Falling Into The Gang Culture - YouTube [/quote]
Kids with two loving parents living in the suburbs end up in gangs.
Kids with 1 poor mom living in the inner city end up surgeons. [/quote]
The point is not whether a child has 1 parent or not . the point is whether or not the child is wanted .
If you watched the video they did not claim that missing a parent made them bad it was growing up with major voids that are required to make a well adjusted individual . Parents and especially mothers can see if they are not ready to have children . You and I can not make that judgement for another
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
the point is whether or not the child is wanted .
If you watched the video they did not claim that missing a parent made them bad it was growing up with major voids that are required to make a well adjusted individual . Parents and especially mothers can see if they are not ready to have children . You and I can not make that judgement for another
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So people canāt make the judgment as to whether another person is ready to be a parent yet, but are somehow able to make a judgment to if someone should LIVE or not?
That is really your stance? That people might have a bad life, so we should kill them if that is possible? That people are incapable of making choices, except the choice to end the life of another?
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
So your solution is to just murder the child and be done with it?
That link should be right up your alley. [/quote]
are you telling me that you would not practice any form of making the best child possible ?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
The point is not whether a child has 1 parent or not . the point is whether or not the child is wanted .
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I bet the child wants itself.
That child might meet a man/woman that wants them. Maybe that unwanted child grows up and has 5 kids that are wanted and they turn out to be amazing people. We donāt know what will happen, there is no crystal ball, so every human creation should have the opportunity at life. Yes, sometime nature takes its course, and a fetus dies. Iām talking about those that would make it to term if no one interfered.
Iām not saying some childhoods arenāt terrible. They are, but they are still temporary.
I did not watch the video, Iām at work.
I can speak for myself , I chose a beautiful , physically fit and very intelligent spouse . That is full on eugenics
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Iāve got no problem with a woman making a decision not to bring a child into this word IF that child hasnāt been created yet. [/quote]
Pitt doesnāt think it is a child until it can roll a joint. [/quote]
I guess I better google how then so my doc doesnāt abort meā¦
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I bet the child wants itself. [/quote]
I bet the zygote is incapable of want
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I bet the child wants itself. [/quote]
I bet the zygote is incapable of want
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How do you know that?
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Iāve got no problem with a woman making a decision not to bring a child into this word IF that child hasnāt been created yet. [/quote]
Pitt doesnāt think it is a child until it can roll a joint. [/quote]
I guess I better google how then so my doc doesnāt abort meā¦[/quote]
personally we are back to stupidity . Just saying shit . If you have a real question ask I will have to be final judge on stupid
