Teen Pregnancy Drops as Planned Parenthood Vanishes

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I DO THINK people want to take away her right to choose , [/quote]

What if the aborted fetus is female?

Wasn’t she just denied her “right to choose”?

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bump, more ignored tough questions. [/quote]

Still ignored…

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I have learned to ignore ridiculous questions but you persist so I must take you seriously .

It does not matter if it is a male or female. When the zygote reaches a developed stage where it can sustain it’s own life (Breathe) than it owns it own life . Until that time it’s life belongs to it’s host

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I DO THINK people want to take away her right to choose , [/quote]

What if the aborted fetus is female?

Wasn’t she just denied her “right to choose”?

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bump, more ignored tough questions. [/quote]

Still ignored…

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I have learned to ignore ridiculous questions but you persist so I must take you seriously .

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Again:

You said people want to take away a “woman’s right to choose”.

I therefore asked; isn’t murdering and unborn female taking away her “right” to choose?

Nor you or anyone has been able to answer that question, why is that?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It does not matter if it is a male or female. When the zygote reaches a developed stage where it can sustain it’s own life (Breathe) than it owns it own life . Until that time it’s life belongs to it’s host
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Yes, you have repeatedly stated your lack of value on human life, over and over. We are well aware you do not consider children sovereign human beings until some arbitrary point that you magically pull out of your ass that has zero medical or scientific backing what-so-ever. In fact, you and others consider children parasites. We know this. Now answer the question please.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

We are well aware you do not consider children sovereign human beings until some arbitrary point that you magically pull out of your ass that has zero medical or scientific backing what-so-ever. [/quote]

I do not consider a zygote to be a child .

There is no arbitrary point I pull out my ass. Viability is when the child can breath on it’s own . I would even accept the fetus could live on a ventilator .

The rest of your post in emotional drivel

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I would contend until that child can breath , it is in fact (NOT) sovereign

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

We are well aware you do not consider children sovereign human beings until some arbitrary point that you magically pull out of your ass that has zero medical or scientific backing what-so-ever. [/quote]

I do not consider a zygote to be a child .

There is no arbitrary point I pull out my ass. Viability is when the child can breath on it’s own . I would even accept the fetus could live on a ventilator .

The rest of your post in emotional drivel
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I don’t follow, if you’re on a ventilator you can’t breathe on your own. How is that viable than by your definition?

Please note, you are STILL ignoring the original question.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

We are well aware you do not consider children sovereign human beings until some arbitrary point that you magically pull out of your ass that has zero medical or scientific backing what-so-ever. [/quote]

I do not consider a zygote to be a child .[/quote]

What is it then? A puppy dog? A tree? A rock? What is it then?

So what week into the pregnancy do you think abortion should be limited to then?

And yes, you are just pulling this shit out of your ass. Not one single ounce of science or medial theory backs up your silly ass assertion, otherwise you would post it. You literally cannot find a single doctor that will say a fetus isn’t alive or human…

[quote]The rest of your post in emotional drivel
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Cute coming from someone who bases his rationale for murdering people he doesn’t want around on dictionary.com.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

We are well aware you do not consider children sovereign human beings until some arbitrary point that you magically pull out of your ass that has zero medical or scientific backing what-so-ever. [/quote]

I do not consider a zygote to be a child .

There is no arbitrary point I pull out my ass. Viability is when the child can breath on it’s own . I would even accept the fetus could live on a ventilator .

The rest of your post in emotional drivel
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I don’t follow, if you’re on a ventilator you can’t breathe on your own. How is that viable than by your definition?[/quote]

You won’t be able to follow. His opinion has no logical or scientific basis. It is some baloney concocted in his mind to justify what he knows is morally reprehensible.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I would contend until that child can breath , it is in fact (NOT) sovereign [/quote]

Okay, can you find a single doctor or scientist that agrees with you?

Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I don’t follow, if you’re on a ventilator you can’t breathe on your own. How is that viable than by your definition?[/quote]

I am for the child to live .

I am not pro death I am pro choice . I see it as not only the mother’s right but also her moral obligation to make sure that when she brings a child into the world that it is for the best .

It is not anyone else’s decision

This is the fallacy of making qa pro choice person a pro death person . It would be the same logic to say if some one is pro gun than they endorse murder

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am not pro death I am pro choice . I see it as not only the mother’s right but also her moral obligation to make sure that when she brings a child into the world that it is for the best . [/quote]

On what planet is being murdered “the best” option for a child’s life?

Thank Christ I’m not a pot head… holy shit.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I see it as not only the mother’s right but also her moral obligation to make sure that when she brings a child into the world that it is for the best .
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Who is it best for?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
You won’t be able to follow. His opinion has no logical or scientific basis. It is some baloney concocted in his mind to justify what he knows is morally reprehensible. [/quote]

I have not stated anything that I claim to be scientific . Reality will dictate when the baby can live separate from mom

See bean the Mrs is past child bearing age , I promise if I start fucking some one else I will get fixed . This discussion does not effect me , I am not justifying any thing .

I have stated I think for a person addicted to drugs , living in a brothel , with abusive partners , in severe poverty , lacking medical attention , lacking food . lacking potable water , lacking the basic essentials would be morally reprehensible for them to bring a child into a mess that they live in

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I see it as not only the mother’s right but also her moral obligation to make sure that when she brings a child into the world that it is for the best .
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Who is it best for?[/quote]

vacuum manufacturers, and those that get paid to operate them.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

On what planet is being murdered “the best” option for a child’s life? [/quote]

it is not a child

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I see it as not only the mother’s right but also her moral obligation to make sure that when she brings a child into the world that it is for the best .
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Who is it best for?[/quote]

the child

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I have stated I think for a person addicted to drugs , living in a brothel , with abusive partners , in severe poverty , lacking medical attention , lacking food . lacking potable water , lacking the basic essentials would be morally reprehensible for them to bring a child into a mess that they live in
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I’m glad you feel justified and egotistical enough to pass judgment on others and assume they are forever condemned to a bad life. I’m also impressed with your powers of extra sensory perception as to know what kind of life the child would have lived.

But I suppose this elitist “I know how you should best live (or not live in this context) your life, even better than you do” attitude fits your political leanings perfectly.

Just lol… Way to contradict yourself in two posts.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

On what planet is being murdered “the best” option for a child’s life? [/quote]

it is not a child [/quote]

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I see it as not only the mother’s right but also her moral obligation to make sure that when she brings a child into the world that it is for the best .
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Who is it best for?[/quote]

the child
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If it isn’t a child, what is it then?

A goat? A boat? A Hat? How about a Cat?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I see it as not only the mother’s right but also her moral obligation to make sure that when she brings a child into the world that it is for the best .
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Who is it best for?[/quote]

the child
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How is not being allowed to live their own life best for the child?

How?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Just lol… Way to contradict yourself in two posts.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

On what planet is being murdered “the best” option for a child’s life? [/quote]

it is not a child [/quote]

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I see it as not only the mother’s right but also her moral obligation to make sure that when she brings a child into the world that it is for the best .
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Who is it best for?[/quote]

the child
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If it isn’t a child, what is it then?

A goat? A boat? A Hat? How about a Cat?[/quote]

close a Zygote and if it develops ,it becomes a child and as it becomes older it becomes an adult and as it’s life winds down it becomes elderly and it eventually becomes a corpse :slight_smile: hope that helps :slight_smile:

I don’t know what else can be said. I’ll never understand how no life is > bad life. Death is permanent. A shitty childhood lasts for what 15-18 years of a life that will likely last 75 or so.

Life offers the opportunity to turn an awful childhood into something great. Death offers nothing.